Suicide

Nah...i have had thoughts that it would better to be dead but not of killing myself. Personally i feel its not the best way to deal with the issues, its only the easy way out. But w/e.

Very interesting results.

Yes... but was it really that serious? 

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Although I have been through all manner of bereavements, break ups and knock backs, I found that any real depression and anxiety I suffered seemed to be sparked by things out of my control; conflicts around the world, the fear of terminal illness etc. Ive also felt overwhelmed by how utterly insignificant we ALL are, overwhelmed to the point of panic attack. It's obvious that my own personal experiences are the reason behind my 'darker' days, but it seems as though I'm so frightened to address these, so instead I allow things beyond my control to masquerade as my real problems.

That way I'm exempt from having to do anything about it. It's more of an avoidance strategy than a coping one!

Does that sound insane?? Does anyone actually know what I'm talking about??

Blacksword wrote: Although I have been through all manner of bereavements, break ups and knock backs, I found that any real depression and anxiety I suffered seemed to be sparked by things out of my control; conflicts around the world, the fear of terminal illness etc. Ive also felt overwhelmed by how utterly insignificant we ALL are, overwhelmed to the point of panic attack. It's obvious that my own personal experiences are the reason behind my 'darker' days, but it seems as though I'm so frightened to address these, so instead I allow things beyond my control to masquerade as my real problems. That way I'm exempt from having to do anything about it. It's more of an avoidance strategy than a coping one! Does that sound insane?? Does anyone actually know what I'm talking about??

I do.

But at the end of the day, all of this is due to two things:

1. Reality

2. Biochemistry

Feeling depressed is mostly about biochemistry, IMO. It hurts, so we become pessimistic, and then it hurts even more. A vicious circle. But we can realise that what we're dealing with is basically physical pain; pain not that different from the occasional one. Yeah, it's definitely more of a b*tch to get rid of and it's not really localised in one point, but it's physical pain. It is possible to "detach" one's thoughts from it at least to a certain extent and break that vicious circle. Same thing with fear etc. And if we manage to detach, we have more power and confidence to work on the first cause - reality. It works quite well for me, at least.       

...or are eaten by the eagle






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Manunkind wrote: Blacksword wrote: Although I have been through all manner of bereavements, break ups and knock backs, I found that any real depression and anxiety I suffered seemed to be sparked by things out of my control; conflicts around the world, the fear of terminal illness etc. Ive also felt overwhelmed by how utterly insignificant we ALL are, overwhelmed to the point of panic attack. It's obvious that my own personal experiences are the reason behind my 'darker' days, but it seems as though I'm so frightened to address these, so instead I allow things beyond my control to masquerade as my real problems. That way I'm exempt from having to do anything about it. It's more of an avoidance strategy than a coping one! Does that sound insane?? Does anyone actually know what I'm talking about?? I do. But at the end of the day, all of this is due to two things: 1. Reality 2. Biochemistry Feeling depressed is mostly about biochemistry, IMO. It hurts, so we become pessimistic, and then it hurts even more. A vicious circle. But we can realise that what we're dealing with is basically physical pain; pain not that different from the occasional one. Yeah, it's definitely more of a b*tch to get rid of and it's not really localised in one point, but it's physical pain. It is possible to "detach" one's thoughts from it at least to a certain extent and break that vicious circle. Same thing with fear etc. And if we manage to detach, we have more power and confidence to work on the first cause - reality. It works quite well for me, at least.

I certainly know where you're coming from ... 2 factors played a big part in my battles ...

1) A family history of dipolar depression ...

2) Moving house 26 or 27 times in my first 29 years ... living in some of the world's poorest countries and some of its wealthiest ... there is a feeling of responsibility and helplessness that can and has led to despair ...

It is indeed a viscious circle, but ever since I became a parent, I have refused to allow myself to give into it ... which is far from saying being a parent is a solution ... in many cases it can make things worse ...  it has just forced me to switch when I see the warning signs coming (I'm sure you guys know what I mean) ... cos there's simply no room in my life for it ... I have too important a job to do.

I've pondered it a few times, but never very seriously.

I've also unfortunately had a suicide in my family history, and it is absolutely devastating to those left behind. Bob Greece is right. You would be missed, no matter how it may feel otherwise.

Besides, you'd never know if you missed the triumphant return of Prog's Golden Years!

If I had to kill someone, I would not start by myself

Seriously, I did have a depression couple of years ago, but not to the point of killing myself.

Manunkind wrote: Yes, and I keep having suicidal thoughts. I've learned to ignore them, however. There's just too many great people out there to make an exit on them like that.

the same goes for me...i have so many great friends--and MUSIC--if i wasn't able to play music adn compose it as well as I do I'd most certainly be dead right now.