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Rosescar
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Joined: October 07 2005
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Posted: December 22 2005 at 12:37 |
I've found that most people listening to popular bullsh*t are the worst
snobs of them all, because they think their music is best and can't be
any further from the truth.
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Norbert
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Joined: October 20 2005
Location: Hungary
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Posted: December 22 2005 at 07:20 |
I'm not a snob I just listen to much better music than other people.
I don't tell people :You are idiots because you know nothing about Van Der Graaf Generator.
I don't consider myself superior.If I am tolerant I can easier convince people that I listen to something good..
It's not snobistic to think that VDGG is much better than Robbie Williams, this is the unquestionable
truth.
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RoyalJelly
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Joined: September 29 2005
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Posted: December 21 2005 at 17:26 |
darren wrote:
I don't think prog has any more
snobs than any other genre of music. I have a friend
who is really into country music and country fans can
be snobs. We went to a country bar and talked to a
few people. Any country song made before 1979 is a
classic. Period. No discussion. Anything popular is
not cool. There were more rules but they were so
arbitrary that I couldn't keep up.
It's very much like some on this board can be;
either you like x, y and z or you are not truly into prog
and any song released that may have become
popular means the band isn't really prog... etc. etc.
etc.
I know there are some into punk that have their
own set of exclusionary rules as to if you are truly
punk or not.
I know that hip hop is fairly rigid, either you
have "street cred" or you're a poser.
Yes, we are snobs but it's just like any other genre
of music... except our music doesn't suck.
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That's just what I was going to say, that snobbism
is certainly not limited to intellectuals or
connaisseurs of erudite music...truck drivers can be
snobs about their special little culture, jazz lovers too
(I'll never forget seeing John Zorn announcing a
song called "Jazz Snobs Eat sh*t"), opera lovers we
don't need to even discuss. Everyone thinks their
sub-cult or mass-cult is the best, techno-freaks,
punks, hip-hoppers, it's always "we know what's
really better". Which is just close-mindedness.
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tardis
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Joined: October 02 2005
Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: December 21 2005 at 17:26 |
I'm usually not snobbish, but when it comes to progressive rock, I tend to think that anyone who doesn't enjoy it is inferior.
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sebtp
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Joined: December 21 2005
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: December 21 2005 at 17:10 |
As a newcomer to the scene I haven't really found anyone's personality to be any form of barrier. However musically I feel that the genre as a whole looks down on all the others... For example the complex time signatures, relentless solos and mysterious artwork!! All of these seek to elevate prog's status as a musical form. But I believe the genre is all the better for it 
Mike
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Rockin' Chair
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Joined: October 15 2005
Location: Italy
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Points: 153
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Posted: December 21 2005 at 13:33 |
Yes, but only if we talk about music.
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darren
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Joined: October 31 2005
Location: Canada
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Posted: December 21 2005 at 13:08 |
I don't think prog has any more snobs than any other genre of music. I have a friend who is really into country music and country fans can be snobs. We went to a country bar and talked to a few people. Any country song made before 1979 is a classic. Period. No discussion. Anything popular is not cool. There were more rules but they were so arbitrary that I couldn't keep up.
It's very much like some on this board can be; either you like x, y and z or you are not truly into prog and any song released that may have become popular means the band isn't really prog... etc. etc. etc.
I know there are some into punk that have their own set of exclusionary rules as to if you are truly punk or not.
I know that hip hop is fairly rigid, either you have "street cred" or you're a poser.
Yes, we are snobs but it's just like any other genre of music... except our music doesn't suck.
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"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
- Leonard Cohen
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BitchBrew
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Joined: September 10 2005
Location: Sweden
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Points: 216
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 18:03 |
No I wouldnt say i am. I do listen to some artists that are cuite
popular an considered "pop". I really dont care much for cloaths and
material objects, and i have respect for most sub-cultures and musical
genres.
^^  Yea okey, im a snob
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The Mars Volta, Mike Patton, Frank Zappa, Pink Floyd, Liquid Tension Experiment
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Publius
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Joined: April 14 2005
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:59 |
 likewise!
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I'm so prog, I clap in 9/8
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Tony Fisher
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 30 2005
Location: England
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:56 |
In musical terms, God I hope so!!!!!
Not in any other way. I don't look down on the peasants around me at all. I respect them greatly as my inferiors.
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Publius
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Joined: April 14 2005
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:54 |
What a topical thread! I'm just arguing with my girlfriend about prog and music in general, because she said she liked that stupid new "JCB song". She can't seem to understand that progressive rock is the key to human evolution and that we are better than everyone else.
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I'm so prog, I clap in 9/8
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Velvetclown
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Joined: February 13 2004
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:54 |
We are the Upper Class twits of the year
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Velvetclown
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:52 |
Yes we are !!!
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fractal
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 16 2005
Location: Brazil
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Points: 120
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:47 |
So 3rd world country people can't afford to be snobs? I don't know, I live in a 3rd world country too and I know some snobs...
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Klaatu Barada Nikto!
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zabriskiepoint
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Joined: October 20 2005
Location: Argentina
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:20 |
No, I'm not, I live in a 3rd world country, and don't have much money so I don't see the snob in me.
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cuncuna
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Joined: March 29 2005
Location: Chile
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Points: 4318
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:03 |
No, I'm very poor, in mind as in pocketts. I just have a soft spot for poetry and complex conceptual constructions. But everyone is welcome in my heart.
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ĦBeware of the Bee!
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Peace Frog
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Joined: October 17 2005
Location: Canada
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Points: 994
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 15:20 |
Chipiron wrote:
Yes. Of course, I love Iron Maiden and The Stones, like every snob... |
I actually know a snob who likes Slipknot and Ozzy. I find it funny.
I am so far from being a snob it's not funny. I'm just the modern nonconformist. I don't limit my music tastes to only one genre and try to be different. I am a huge Our Lady Peace and Nirvana fan- I know you may think that's weird, but 90s alternative rock is what I grew up hearing, so it's always been my favourite. I'll still be listening to Nevermind and Bleach when I'm 80.
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Chipiron
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Joined: April 05 2005
Location: Spain
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Points: 780
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 15:00 |
Yes. Of course, I love Iron Maiden and The Stones, like every snob...
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Empathy
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Joined: June 30 2005
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 14:15 |
tardis wrote:
You're all a bunch of snobs. Why would I want to talk to you? |
To bathe and frolic in the fountains of our illuminating wisdom, of course.
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Empathy
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 30 2005
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 14:14 |
undefinability wrote:
I love being referred to as snobbish, because I
can use the retort, "Yes, but I'm a snob who has exceptional taste,"
which usually angers people even more because of how snobbish the tone is. |
hehehe, I like that! I'm going to steal it.
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