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transend

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Posted: December 17 2005 at 17:29

voted for Comatorium coz it was over quicker..

StumpyJoe

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Posted: December 17 2005 at 17:36

Frances The Mute

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Posted: December 17 2005 at 17:37

Deloused is very tight, emotional, and the compositions are
fresh and make total sense. I find Frances rather rambling, and
some of the ambient transitions are so endless and
uninteresting, I'm always fast-forwarding through them to get to
the music. It also seems to fall back more on cliché song
structures (chordal structures) and the epics just go on too long
without any real development, like that salsa figure that keeps
coming back but nothing ever happens with it. That's just my
opinion though, I understand how people could dig the crazy
energy behind it.

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Posted: December 17 2005 at 18:11

I think both rock and are both equally amazing but I have to go for deloused simply becuase its their first album plus it is alot more proggy and very psychadelic whilst Francis has eased up on that and gone down the 'long songs that feel short' route (which I also like) as well as haveing that more obvious latino influence (not that im complaining). f**k it I like them both anyway!

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Posted: December 18 2005 at 13:10

Gonna have to go with De-Loused in the Comatorium. Frances the Mute has its moments, especially the monstrous Cassandra Geminii, perhaps their greatest composition to date. However, De-Loused is a far better "album" than Frances; the songs are more structured, the "noise" much more bearable, the high points higher, and an overall feeling of "completeness" not heard on Frances. Frances only has 5 songs, and each one contains one general musical idea (CG notwithstanding), while the songs on De-Loused run through many ideas in 8 minutes. Vismund Cygnus and L'Via are awesome songs, but they don't hold a candle to Roulette Dares or Drunkship of Lanterns

Edited by Deadwing12

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Posted: December 18 2005 at 15:48

^ haha...wow i disagree with that...but i'll accept that answer. I think Cygnus out-does every song on De-loused...plus Cygnus runs through a multitude of musical ideas in ten minutes...roulette dares is the song expressing little musically, although i still love the song. i will agree that de-loused is much better "put-together" but I like the music/premis/overall feeling that frances gives me more than i do on de-loused...although, like it's been said, they are both astounding. thanks to all for your input.

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el böthy

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Posted: March 29 2006 at 11:03

I got Frances...quite a while ago, and for some reason I did not pay much atettion to it, although I knew how "great" it was because of all the stuff said about it in this site...but a week ago I got an inch to hear it again...and I was sold...Frances is a masterpiece, De-Loused was great...but this is so much more than great!!!

"You want me to play what, Robert?"

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Posted: March 29 2006 at 11:09

One of the rare cases in which I can "state my preference" clearly:

De-loused in the Comatorium

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Poll Question: Do you prefer the debut of the second attempt?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
De-loused in the Comatorium	24	[51.06%]
Frances the Mute	23	[48.94%]
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transend Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 15 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 876	Posted: December 17 2005 at 17:29
	voted for Comatorium coz it was over quicker..

StumpyJoe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: November 08 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4	Posted: December 17 2005 at 17:36
	Frances The Mute
	"You can’t really dust for vomit."

RoyalJelly Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 29 2005 Status: Offline Points: 582	Posted: December 17 2005 at 17:37
	Deloused is very tight, emotional, and the compositions are fresh and make total sense. I find Frances rather rambling, and some of the ambient transitions are so endless and uninteresting, I'm always fast-forwarding through them to get to the music. It also seems to fall back more on cliché song structures (chordal structures) and the epics just go on too long without any real development, like that salsa figure that keeps coming back but nothing ever happens with it. That's just my opinion though, I understand how people could dig the crazy energy behind it.

Space Dimentia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 25 2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 440	Posted: December 17 2005 at 18:11
	I think both rock and are both equally amazing but I have to go for deloused simply becuase its their first album plus it is alot more proggy and very psychadelic whilst Francis has eased up on that and gone down the 'long songs that feel short' route (which I also like) as well as haveing that more obvious latino influence (not that im complaining). f**k it I like them both anyway!
	Prog is music for the mind Hear your Orphaned child! Check out my bands myspace site: www.myspace.com/equinox17

Deadwing12 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 16 2005 Status: Offline Points: 301	Posted: December 18 2005 at 13:10
	Gonna have to go with De-Loused in the Comatorium. Frances the Mute has its moments, especially the monstrous Cassandra Geminii, perhaps their greatest composition to date. However, De-Loused is a far better "album" than Frances; the songs are more structured, the "noise" much more bearable, the high points higher, and an overall feeling of "completeness" not heard on Frances. Frances only has 5 songs, and each one contains one general musical idea (CG notwithstanding), while the songs on De-Loused run through many ideas in 8 minutes. Vismund Cygnus and L'Via are awesome songs, but they don't hold a candle to Roulette Dares or Drunkship of Lanterns Edited by Deadwing12


Figglesnout Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: November 26 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1455	Posted: December 18 2005 at 15:48
	^ haha...wow i disagree with that...but i'll accept that answer. I think Cygnus out-does every song on De-loused...plus Cygnus runs through a multitude of musical ideas in ten minutes...roulette dares is the song expressing little musically, although i still love the song. i will agree that de-loused is much better "put-together" but I like the music/premis/overall feeling that frances gives me more than i do on de-loused...although, like it's been said, they are both astounding. thanks to all for your input.
	I'm a reasonable man, get off my case

el böthy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336	Posted: March 29 2006 at 11:03
	I got Frances...quite a while ago, and for some reason I did not pay much atettion to it, although I knew how "great" it was because of all the stuff said about it in this site...but a week ago I got an inch to hear it again...and I was sold...Frances is a masterpiece, De-Loused was great...but this is so much more than great!!!
	"You want me to play what, Robert?"

avestin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625	Posted: March 29 2006 at 11:09
	One of the rare cases in which I can "state my preference" clearly: De-loused in the Comatorium
	Hanging Sounds PA Index of prog music vendors