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Ty1020
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Posted: December 12 2005 at 19:28 |
chopper wrote:
I guess teenagers won't know anything that isn't played on Radio 1. |
I resent that. I'm 16 and I actually don't know anyone who actively
listens to the radio. I have quite a few prog loving friends, and the
rest of the people I know all listen to other relatively unknown music.
We're not all idiots, you know  .
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Anaesthetist72
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Posted: December 12 2005 at 19:40 |
I know what you mean... and the answer is yes. The majority of todays youth would rather listen to mindless apes(blink182, new found glory, etc etc) strum away power chords and sing like they are holding their noses, than listen to anything with any sort of complication at all. This girl I know(17 at the time) told me that she would rather listen to simple music like blink182 than anything with guitar solos. It's rather disgusting.
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Posted: December 12 2005 at 20:55 |
so the general opinion, is that the density of proglovers (oh i love that!) varies from general area to area. but mainly it seems their are still quite few young proggers.
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Posted: December 12 2005 at 20:56 |
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chamberry
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Posted: December 12 2005 at 21:15 |
Im 16 and the only friends I know that listen to prog are because I
introduced them to Dream Theater or Mago de Oz. But still they don't
know anything about the 70s prog scene nor have they listened to
anything prg besides prog metal.
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Ty1020
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Posted: December 12 2005 at 21:21 |
For an indication of the vitality of prog among young people today,
look no further than my avatar. It's a picture of my band (I'm on the
left  ) performing Porcupine Tree's
Blackest Eyes at our school's last Lunchapalooza (our semi-annual rock
show). The song was well-received and I know a lot of people who
downloaded it and got into Porcupine Tree as a result, in addition to
the droves of people who were already familiar with the band and
enjoyed it for that reason.
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Violenza
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Posted: December 12 2005 at 21:39 |
Wow, I knew there many young people here, but I had no idea there were so many 15/16 year olds interested in prog. I was thinking more of 18/19 year olds when I saw youth. Good job with the band performance, Ty1020.
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penguindf12
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Joined: September 20 2004
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Posted: December 12 2005 at 21:46 |
you'll be hard-pressed to find any 14 year olds that like prog...wait till you're 15 or 16, and they'll show up more...but not much more. I still only have one friend who's really into prog, but only because of me. THen I know some others that are mildly into it, but no Van der Graaf Generator fans...
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The Ryan
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Posted: December 12 2005 at 22:42 |
I don't know anyone my age that's into prog (I'm in high school still) and never have even though 80-85% of what I listen to is prog-related. Only semi-prog bands like The Who and Pink Floyd for example, are mentioned among people my age on the topic of prog-rock. Maybe even Deep Purple, but none of the classics on the top 100. Not even Dream Theater, even though some kids know about DT, they are not enough. These kids are behind me, I listened to Dream Theater for the first time probably at age 9 or earlier, and experienced the progressive scene at about 13-14.
I guess I am rare in the sense that in my family I am the first to buy (or even hear) a progressive album. Though my grandfather, oldest brother, father, and mother all enjoy(ed) Yes on the radio, they all managed to avoid the genre itself?! I am the pioneer for prog, nobody pressed the genre on me, especially not my parents. Some people just realize Eminem and Mariah Carey aren't worthwhile and look for something better. For me, it's Yes, Pink Floyd, Dream Theater, and co.
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The Ryan
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Posted: December 12 2005 at 22:52 |
Rosescar wrote:
I noticed that the people who do not know prog either are girls, unintelligent, or just don't listen to music at all. People who appreciate prog (or atleast weren't satisfied by today's music) usually are either quite intelligent, or had musical education. There's one exception, but the guy's all pretentious - he thinks he's really cool listening to rebellious, underground music like Greenday.
The one thing that might be bad about prog being underground is that people will think you're pretentious and an attention-seeker. The people I'd expect to say this usually are acting all cool when singing along to their bullsh*t music.
But yeah, it does seem that prog is getting quite popular with the current generation, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if a prog band would become mainstream.
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Like Mars Volta, Radiohead. <-These two are huge. "Muse" and "Tool" (Prog? Yeah... whatever kids) It already happened is my point..
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Norbert
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 03:09 |
I hardly find people around me who know what is progressive rock.
They only know Another Brick in the Wall.
Some people think that I listen to some kind of brutal music, when I mention progressive rock!
Dream Theater is relatively well known, but usually among readers of metal magazines.
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 03:41 |
Progressive music is out there, you just can't call it prog. lots of kids are listening to Tool, TMV and Radiohead among others. the leap from liking those bands to being a full-time progressive music fan isn't that difficult. if you have a friend who's into Tool, tell them to check out a King Crimson record.
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NutterAlert
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 03:47 |
Thinking about it, although I am now an old fart, I consider myself lucky to have grown up through the prog/glam and latterly the punk years.
My kids today listen to M&M (oops eminem), Dizzy Rascal, Green Day, & other easily accessible artists.
When I was their age you could hear a clip of ELP KE9 as opening music for BBC radio 4 science program, Allan Freeman was on Radio 1 Sat afternoon playing prog, John Peel was on each evening playing decent stuff (although he changed...), The Old grey whistle test had some superb sessions. An ELP film was played one xmas showing them on their BSS world tour on BBC1. None of this happens today.
I've said it on this forum before but I have a lot of respect for the younger members who have managed to navigate their way through all the dross that's out there and find prog.
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Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 04:37 |
THE MARS VOLTA IS NOT MAKING MAINSTREAM MUSIC!
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NutterAlert
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 04:42 |
Please don't shout Maja
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 21:16 |
Actually, my friend likes Tool and doubt he'll even give King Crimson a
go, trust me, I know he won't like them. Maybe he may like the
'80s and '90s stuff better, but I've yet to hear that myself. He
certainly will hate Lizard!
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FishyMonkey
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 21:21 |
Let's make a club, guys. The, "We're under 16 and listen to prog" group.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 21:44 |
But I'm 25... oh well.
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alterpower
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Joined: December 13 2005
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 22:09 |
Hi, I'm new, i just made this account but i've been visiting this site often
for the past month or so, and its really the best place for any youth to
experience prog, old and new. I'm 19 and I previously considered myself
adept in music, i had been listening to all the "cool" and "underground"
bands of today and previous years and that included bands like The Mars
Volta, Coheed & Cambria, and Dredg (with Pink Floyd lightly scattered in
the mix), to name a few of the proggers. But when i stumbled upon this
site it made me realize i had much to learn, and i decided to start at the
beginning, In The Court of the Crimson King. and boy, that album blew
me away and since then i've really enjoyed older prog much more.
but anyways on topic. Yeah 99% of the teens i know are into the modern
fads of emo, and hardcore music, which i must say some of it does appeal
to me, and i do buy these albums, haha. but yeah none of them listen to
prog, the cloesest thing, but they always consider themselves music
adept as i had those many years ago.
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Oh I don't know [incert activity] but I did listen to a prog album last night.
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Norbert
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Joined: October 20 2005
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Posted: December 14 2005 at 04:17 |
Geck0 wrote:
But I'm 25... oh well. |
... and I'm already 26.
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