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Space Dimentia 
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 Posted: December 08 2005 at 12:34 |
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I must say I do agree with matti you dont have to like Yes ELP or Genesis to be prog fan there are other bands like Rush, VDGG, Pink Floyd not fogetting thigs like prog metal and nu-prog. I persoanlly am not a big fan of genesis and I abit of Yes and ELP but im still a prog fan!
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el böthy
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 12:37 |
 matti meikäläin wrote:
am i really the only one who thinks this way on progarchives |
Wow you dont like them!!! Wow man, you are so cool....do you want a badge for that???
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Flip_Stone
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 12:48 |
THEN GET LOST! YOU AREN'T NEEDED AROUND HERE!
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matti meikäläin
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 12:53 |
Suki wrote:
Yeah. As been said above, you should just listen
more.. I started listening to prog recently (about a year), I like
Yes's Close to the Edge, Relayer's The Gates.... and Fragile's
Roundabout, besides that, I'm still not 'into' their other stuff..
ELP, only recently I've been enjoying Tarkus (the epic)
Genesis, SEBTP, great.. Though, haven't "got into" Nursery Cryme,
Foxtrot (especially the epic there) and so on.. If
I've learnt something from my prog experience, is to never
dismiss bands and albums even after 50 times of hearing the same
thing.. so, opening such threads is useless, prog is not all about
these bands and you should give time to do his own, you don't know what
awaits in the future, you might like them (even if it seems like the
most unlikeable thing, like it happened to me with Tarkus)
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i almost like close to the edge but
not really ( believe me, i have heard it about 30 times as a whole
album) in my opinion tarkus ( only that track) is pretty good, but as a
whole album there are some really really bad and useless tracks. i have
heard also all peter gabriel era albums and just dont like them.
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matti meikäläin
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 12:55 |
el böthy wrote:
matti meikäläin wrote:
am i really the only one who thinks this way on progarchives |
Wow you dont like them!!! Wow man, you are so cool....do you want a badge for that??? |
maybe little bit sarcasm 
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Rainman
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 13:46 |
Matti,
I don't see any logic or motivation behind your words. What causes you to dislike them? Your listening to The Mars Volta would indicate that you are a rock guitar fan. So far, I can only suppose that you like more uneven and avant-garde than academic sound.
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matti meikäläin
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 14:06 |
Rainman wrote:
Matti,
I don't see any logic or motivation behind your words. What causes
you to dislike them? Your listening to The Mars Volta
would indicate that you are a rock guitar fan. So far, I can only
suppose that you like more uneven and avant-garde than academic sound. |
i dont have the time to explain why i dont like them, and who really cares " i can suppose you like more uneven and avant- garde than academic sound" you are right on that.
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A'swepe
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 14:20 |
I can respect your dislike of the Big Three. However, I really believe that you are missing some increadible music. Having been in my teens & early 20s when these bands first gained prominence, perhaps I took to it without much thought; kind of like kids today listening to Britney & all the others.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like every single song on every album, but most if their stuff is very listenable. I may be one of the few YES fans that doesn't like Relayer or Tales. I do like most of their stuff before that & a lot of it after. I'm all over Genesis all the way through Invisible Touch, & about 99% of ELP is to my liking.
To each his own - enjoy what you enjoy & forget the rest.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 14:42 |
matti meikäläin wrote:
philippe wrote:
anyway you are welcomed, unless if you say to us that you don't like these bands because Dream Theater is better |
no way, i dont like dream theather. my favourite prog bands are: van der graaf generator, pink floyd, mars volta, and king crimson
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Absolutely valid taste frog a prog forum we don't need to have the same tastes, I don't like most King Crimson (Except ITCOTCK and Red which are great) or Mars Volta so we're even. 
Iván
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Rashikal
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 14:57 |
i dislike yes except for relayer... genesis angers me because the rest
of the guys could hardly make up for phil collins's suckiness.
phil collins = 
yes and genesis are of among the few progressive bands i really dont like that much.
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richardh
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 15:08 |
The only prog band I've heard that I don't like is Triumvirat.I can find something I like by all others (I've heard).So the question is;:
Do you really dislike all tracks/albums by Yes,ELP and Genesis? If you are a prog fan then I find that hard to believe actually.Sorry.
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 15:26 |
matti meikäläin wrote:
philippe wrote:
anyway you are welcomed, unless if you say to us that you don't like these bands because Dream Theater is better |
no way, i dont like dream theather. my favourite prog bands are: van der graaf generator, pink floyd, mars volta, and king crimson
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Funny - I don't like 3 of those - just Floyd! But we're all entitled to our opinion.
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NutterAlert
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 15:39 |
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I think for me familiarity with ELP, Yes & genesis has bred
some contempt. Each group still has its moments and there are still
tracks I enjoy, but I could never listen to a full album by any of them
in one stretch. I haven't listened to any genesis for years now.
In my teens/20's I wore out grooves of BSS, CTTE, Relayer & Tarkus LPs.
I'm just glad prog is broad church and there are many smart cookies on
this forum recommending new groups to check out all the time.
Edited by NutterAlert
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Peace Frog
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 15:41 |
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Drew
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 15:41 |
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I don't like them much either- Genesis is the best of the three though.
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 16:01 |
matti meikäläin wrote:
am i really the only one who thinks this way on progarchives
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I love all of them, but if you don't like em...well...good for you.
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goose
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 16:10 |
None of Yes, ELP or Genesis are consistently anywhere near the top for me. I love Yes' Relayer, and about half the songs on the first few Genesis albums to bits, but beyond that I'm not that fussed. If we're talking about classic bands, KC, Soft Machine, Magma win hands down for me
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 16:18 |
Rashikal wrote:
i dislike yes except for relayer... genesis angers me because the rest of the guys could hardly make up for phil collins's suckiness.
phil collins =
yes and genesis are of among the few progressive bands i really dont like that much.
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Hey Rashilkal, let me inform that there's Genesis before Phil Collins got even near a microphone, and according to most people here is 300% better.
Iván
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Certif1ed
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 16:24 |
I don't like ELP or Yes either.
And I won't go into other bands that I have no time for...
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krusty
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 18:44 |
richardh wrote:
The only prog band I've heard that I don't like is
Triumvirat.I can find something I like by all others (I've heard).So
the question is;:
Do you really dislike all tracks/albums by Yes,ELP and Genesis? If
you are a prog fan then I find that hard to believe actually.Sorry. |
I think the above point is valid , it's easy to generalise about a band
or bands but I'm sure there must be some tracks by those 3 bands
(Genesis,ELP & Yes) you may like. You just haven't heard them yet.
I heard some Glass Hammer for the first time tonight and I must confess I'm in no rush to hear them again But that said some people who's opinion I respect seem to like them,so maybe I haven't heard the right stuff  I'll give them another chance (one day not too soon )
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