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Froth 
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 Posted: December 04 2005 at 15:13 |
 dream_orchestra wrote:
Where i come from Eloy are as famous as Dream Theatre, which is not really. But Dt are the worst of the lot.......or maybe Gong and all that Canterbury nonsense.
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Your seriously missing out!...
Dreamtheatre, DixieDregs and Symphony X.... its all technique orientated drival that gives prog a bad name
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Destrio
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Posted: December 04 2005 at 15:25 |
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Genesis,  they're good, Firth of Fifth, Get em Out By
Friday, and Supper's Ready are amazing. But the band is vastly overrated.
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And your reasoning for this? Overrated is such an annoying word when no
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Lots of things about them annoy me, Peter Gabriels vocals most of the time, ie. on Battle of Epping Forest... and most notably I don't like Tony Banks keyboard work, theres jsut something about it that bothers me, I mean, Firth of Fifth is my favorite piano intro ever, but his keyboard sounds bother me.
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aapatsos
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Posted: December 04 2005 at 15:57 |
Froth wrote:
dream_orchestra wrote:
Where i come from Eloy are as famous as Dream Theatre, which is not really. But Dt are the worst of the lot.......or maybe Gong and all that Canterbury nonsense.
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Your seriously missing out!...
Dreamtheatre, DixieDregs and Symphony X.... its all technique orientated drival that gives prog a bad name
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But, "technique orientated" is part of prog...
I would agree that several times it becomes annoying, but that's the exception...
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Gomurisu
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Posted: December 04 2005 at 16:08 |
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Hmm... Guess it's Dream Theater. They have a couple nice songs, but
they're only trying to be prog. I've never heard something totally
lousy, but Dream Theater just isn't that good.
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GPFR
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Posted: December 04 2005 at 18:27 |
NELMOMEDELPROG wrote:
PFM, CAMEL, RENAISSANCE,
EKSEPTION, SYMPHONY X, EGG, CATAPILLA, LE ORME, BANCO MUTUO SOCCORSO,
ALAN PARSONS PROJECT/ BAND, DEEP PURPLE, YES, ELP, GENESIS,
KANSAS, DREAM THEATRE, VANGELIS, STEVE HOWE, APHRODITES CHILD, BALLETTO
DI BRONZO, TIME MACHINE, ROYAL HUNT, ARTENSION, GENTLE GIANT, JEHTRO
TULL, MARILLION, CACOPHONY, CYNIC, MOODY BLUES, FOCUS, DARK, ATOMIC
ROOSTER, BLACK WIDOW, HATFIELD AND THE NORTH, MIKE OLDFIELD, RICK
WAKEMAN, SHADOW GALLERY, SUPERTRAMP, RUSH AND MANY, MANY, MANY
,MANY... AND MANY ,MANY ,MANY, MANY ,MANY, MANY... AND MANY, MANY,
MANY, MANY MORE!!!!!!!!!!!
I'M A FAN OF PROG MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ha! He didn't say pink floyd, still a chance he likes SOME prog
But the worst popular prog band is.. Camel-dont shoot me!
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Froth
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Posted: December 04 2005 at 18:39 |
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But, "technique orientated" is part of prog...
I would agree that several times it becomes annoying, but that's the exception...
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not really.. for me its rock music that thinks outside the boundries of what rock should sound like. Technique is one way to achieve this but not the only. Pink Floyd weren't really any more technique orientated than any other group in the early 70s but they made some of the best prog by just thinking outside blues scales and 3minute popsongs
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raindance
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Posted: December 04 2005 at 18:43 |
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Lots of things about them annoy me, Peter Gabriels vocals most of the time, ie. on Battle of Epping Forest... and most notably I don't like Tony Banks keyboard work, theres jsut something about it that bothers me, I mean, Firth of Fifth is my favorite piano intro ever, but his keyboard sounds bother me.
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That's a good analogy of Genesis. Way, way overated for the very reasons you mention.
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aapatsos
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Posted: December 04 2005 at 18:48 |
Froth wrote:
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But, "technique orientated" is part of prog...
I would agree that several times it becomes annoying, but that's the exception...
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not really.. for me its rock music that thinks outside the boundries of what rock should sound like. Technique is one way to achieve this but not the only. Pink Floyd weren't really any more technique orientated than any other group in the early 70s but they made some of the best prog by just thinking outside blues scales and 3minute popsongs
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ok I'll go with you
but many technical bands create magnificent music, not all of them
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MANTICORE
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Posted: December 04 2005 at 18:51 |
NELMOMEDELPROG wrote:
PFM, CAMEL, RENAISSANCE, EKSEPTION, SYMPHONY X, EGG, CATAPILLA, LE ORME, BANCO MUTUO SOCCORSO, ALAN PARSONS PROJECT/ BAND, DEEP PURPLE, YES, ELP, GENESIS, KANSAS, DREAM THEATRE, VANGELIS, STEVE HOWE, APHRODITES CHILD, BALLETTO DI BRONZO, TIME MACHINE, ROYAL HUNT, ARTENSION, GENTLE GIANT, JEHTRO TULL, MARILLION, CACOPHONY, CYNIC, MOODY BLUES, FOCUS, DARK, ATOMIC ROOSTER, BLACK WIDOW, HATFIELD AND THE NORTH, MIKE OLDFIELD, RICK WAKEMAN, SHADOW GALLERY, SUPERTRAMP, RUSH AND MANY, MANY, MANY ,MANY... AND MANY ,MANY ,MANY, MANY ,MANY, MANY... AND MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY MORE!!!!!!!!!!!
I'M A FAN OF PROG MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: December 04 2005 at 18:54 |
Pink Floyd are very good but overrated in my opinion. 
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Posted: December 04 2005 at 18:55 |
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 08:49 |
Gomurisu wrote:
Hmm... Guess it's Dream Theater. They have a couple nice songs, but they're only trying to be prog. I've never heard something totally lousy, but Dream Theater just isn't that good. |
Yeah they are trying to be prog... 
keep in mind they are one of the first prog metal bands... 
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Phil
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 09:09 |
I'm reluctant to give a "worst" or "bad" rating to any band, almost all
I've heard have some good points, but of the "big" names I find it hard
to get enthusiastic about Dream Theater. This is entirely personal, I
recognise that they are good musicians, they have some decent tunes,
they do try to be ambitious in what they do, but they just don't float
my boat.
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cuncuna
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 13:45 |
Phil wrote:
I'm reluctant to give a "worst" or "bad" rating to any band, almost all I've heard have some good points, but of the "big" names I find it hard to get enthusiastic about Dream Theater. This is entirely personal, I recognise that they are good musicians, they have some decent tunes, they do try to be ambitious in what they do, but they just don't float my boat.
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Thank you for not saying that they "Suck Balls". Some members here have some "member" issues...
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ĦBeware of the Bee!
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aapatsos
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 13:49 |
cuncuna wrote:
Phil wrote:
I'm reluctant to give a "worst" or "bad" rating to any band, almost all I've heard have some good points, but of the "big" names I find it hard to get enthusiastic about Dream Theater. This is entirely personal, I recognise that they are good musicians, they have some decent tunes, they do try to be ambitious in what they do, but they just don't float my boat.
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Thank you for not saying that they "Suck Balls". Some members here have some "member" issues...
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yeap, good point.
Phil, have you tried to listen carefully to 'Images and words' and 'Metropolis pt.2'?
I am just suggesting these two as their masterpieces. Of course 'Awake' is the next in line
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Uther Pendragon
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 14:18 |
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I think this is a really bad thread, as I think that every band has
their good and bad points and to this kind of criticism isn't
particularly constructive and just puts people and bands down.
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"And so as I patrol in the valley of the shadow of the tricolour I must fear evil for I am but mortal and mortals can only die."
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DEzerov
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 15:04 |
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I've only heard a couple of cuts from it but from what I've heard, PFM's Come Ti Va in Riva Alla Citta is pretty bad and they've done some wonderful things....It's really not fair to use the "worst" label.
Just MHO....
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Jezz
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 15:05 |
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what the hell is wrong with you people??
you're on a prog forum and you're just sl*gging it off?
maybe you people should move to a rap forum or "hip-hop"
and dream theater are awsome! they're just metal aswell...
and proggers who don't like marrillion? whats with that?
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Uther Pendragon
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 15:08 |
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"And so as I patrol in the valley of the shadow of the tricolour I must fear evil for I am but mortal and mortals can only die."
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aapatsos
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 17:51 |
Jezz wrote:
what the hell is wrong with you people??
you're on a prog forum and you're just sl*gging it off?
maybe you people should move to a rap forum or "hip-hop"
and dream theater are awsome! they're just metal aswell...
and proggers who don't like marrillion? whats with that?
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chill out man
we're just expressing opinions
as for DT and Marillion I agree
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