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Vertigo
Forum Groupie
Joined: November 28 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 83
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Posted: November 28 2005 at 11:40 |
Any Dick-Tator
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Tony Fisher
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 30 2005
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 967
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Posted: November 28 2005 at 12:10 |
Paid up member of the Liberal Democrats (in Britain, a Centre-Left party) and proud to be so.
Pet hates: American neo-cons and European right wingers who use the word "Liberal" as an insult. Over this side of the pond it's highly respectable to be tolerant, believe in equality of opportunity and not to be selfish and short-sighted in one's outlook.
And Wakeman is a Tory, yes. Brian Eno is a very active Lib Dem.
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Trotsky
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: October 25 2004
Location: Malaysia
Status: Offline
Points: 2771
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Posted: November 28 2005 at 12:21 |
Tony Fisher wrote:
Paid up member of the Liberal Democrats (in Britain, a Centre-Left party) and proud to be so.
Pet hates: American neo-cons and European right wingers who use the
word "Liberal" as an insult. Over this side of the pond it's highly
respectable to be tolerant, believe in equality of opportunity and not
to be selfish and short-sighted in one's outlook.
And Wakeman is a Tory, yes. Brian Eno is a very active Lib Dem. |
It's still a shock to imagine that a Labour-led government has
blundered into a war admirably opposed by the Liberal Democrats ...
I remember being horrified in the mid 80s when Thatcher kept trouncing
the opposition because Labour and the then Liberal/Social Democratic
Alliance couldn't get a decent understanding ... strange to think that
60% of the country was voting centre-left and yet the right wing had a
stranglehold on power ...
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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VanBuren
Forum Groupie
Joined: October 27 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 83
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Posted: November 28 2005 at 12:42 |
well I like to think of myself as a political science major as both a
liberal progressive just as i am a fan of progressive music, all things
leading forward you might say. I also have a few semi political
questions that maybe someone here can answer.
*Selling England By the Pound is supposed to read like a political
platform for one of the parties in england at the time, can't find much
information here
*someone mentioned dream theater as liberals here somewhere but i seem
to remember hearing a dream theater song that i thought was apposed to
stem cell research, maybe it was satire, but dream theater are usually
painfully straight-forward with their lyrics. sorry i don't know the
title of the song, I'm not to big on them actually, but i think it's
rather new, after metropolis part 2 at least...
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Korova
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 04 2005
Location: Italy
Status: Offline
Points: 189
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Posted: November 28 2005 at 14:23 |
I'm a member of Rifondazione Comunista the italian communist
party...and I've a strong belief in the original message of communism
wich is social equity...i know, sadly men in the history misunderstood
this pure ideal and they become currupted as for exemple in the soviet
union, but this does not mean to me that communism is evil
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La Speranza della coscienza č forza
La Speranza del sentimento č schiavitů
La Speranza del corpo č malattia
(G.I. Gurdjieff)
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The Wizard
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 18 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 7341
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Posted: November 28 2005 at 21:55 |
Rock itself is liberal.
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tardis
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 02 2005
Location: Victoria, BC
Status: Offline
Points: 14378
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Posted: November 28 2005 at 21:56 |
I'm a member of the ULM. The Ulk Liberation Movement!!!!
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VanBuren
Forum Groupie
Joined: October 27 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 83
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 00:19 |
someone answer my question! please!
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NutterAlert
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 07 2005
Location: In transition
Status: Offline
Points: 2808
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 04:02 |
My guess is most are somewhat left of centre
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Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005
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Chipiron
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 05 2005
Location: Spain
Status: Offline
Points: 780
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 04:06 |
GPFR wrote:
Conservitive here, I think music and politics are two very unrelated topics. |
I think music and politics are two very unrelated topics, too.
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Syzygy
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Joined: December 16 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 7003
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 07:32 |
I think that, among the musicians, there is a general tendency towards liberal/left leaning ideals.
I always used to think that prog fans were generally small 'c' conservatives, but the results of the political compass test show a definite tendency to the liberal left, though I think I'm further to the left than most. Still, it's nice to know I'm not the only one!
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Sean Trane
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Prog Folk
Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
Status: Online
Points: 20338
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 07:55 |
Again from an american view , liberal is left wing when the rest of the planets sees the libs as capitalists.
so from your list I chose other and pose myself and the vast majotity of progheads (check out the results of the political compass test) as left-wing with a fairly strong libertarian feel.
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Korova
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 04 2005
Location: Italy
Status: Offline
Points: 189
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 15:09 |
Chipiron wrote:
GPFR wrote:
Conservitive here, I think music and politics are two very unrelated topics. |
I think music and politics are two very unrelated topics, too. |
I don't think so...
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La Speranza della coscienza č forza
La Speranza del sentimento č schiavitů
La Speranza del corpo č malattia
(G.I. Gurdjieff)
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GPFR
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 05 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 760
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 15:15 |
FragileDT wrote:
GPFR wrote:
Conservitive here, I think music and politics are two very
unrelated topics.
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I don't. Music and politics cross all the time. Tons of songs are written about
politics and conditions in today's world and in fact, I can't really think of a
prog band off the top of my head that never touched base on war/peace,
saving society, corruption, ect... |
Well, that depends on what you listen too more, the music or the
lyrics, Ifor one listen to the Music itself, and emotion of the
vocals, if it's politics or religion against what I think, who cares?
Doesn't make me think less of the song.
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www.myspace.com/hail_peter
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alan_pfeifer
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 05 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 823
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 15:20 |
sleeper wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks that poloyics is messed up in general |
Agreed. I gave up caring about straight policital affliliations ahwile ago. I'm trying my best to stay comfortably in the middle.
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Flip_Stone
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 11 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 388
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 18:43 |
Another goofy post. It's a shame to see something great and honorable (prog. music) get somehow mixed up with something that's often full of loathing and corruption (politics).
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The Green Tank
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 06 2005
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 244
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Posted: November 29 2005 at 20:32 |
Conservatives anger me.
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Tony Fisher
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 30 2005
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 967
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 10:16 |
The Wizard wrote:
Rock itself is liberal. |
Tell Rush that. They have some very nasty right wing attitudes and Neil Peart is particularly neo con in his outlook. Strange when you consider that Geddy Lee is Jewish by descent.
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VanBuren
Forum Groupie
Joined: October 27 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 83
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 10:29 |
what right wing attitudes do rush hold?
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BitchBrew
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 10 2005
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 216
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Posted: November 30 2005 at 12:04 |
Sice I do not belive in parlamentarianism I don't belong in any
"party". Nope, I consider myself something of a left-wing libertarian/
anarchist.
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The Mars Volta, Mike Patton, Frank Zappa, Pink Floyd, Liquid Tension Experiment
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