How many MUSE fans here??

I think you misunderstood my statement.

Now that Muse have made it into the archives, it won't be too long before Coldplay join them. Then Greenday will be the obvious choice to follow them. Lets face it, Muse are no more 'progressive' than Coldplay or Greenday. Radiohead are lightyears ahead of them all.

Alot of the bands in the archives are more regressive than progressive. Perhaps we should have a genre called Reg music. Muse would fit into that nicely, they make extremely cliched music, they're often very cheesy aswell.

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Ipacial Section wrote: I think you misunderstood my statement. Now that Muse have made it, it won't be too long before Coldplay make it. Then Greenday will be the obvious choice to follow them. Lets face it, Muse are no more 'progressive' than Coldplay or Greenday. Radiohead are lightyears ahead of them all. Alot of the bands in the archives are more regressive than progressive. Perhaps we should have a genre called Reg music. Muse would fit into them nicely.

No...I would call bands like Anglagard and Wobbler regressive,due to the fact that they use vintage instruments and recording techniques,and are modelling their sound after classic symphonic prog.

Hi Guys,

The comments to my question are sometimes aggressive, sometimes commendable. All I wanted was for a 'decent' discussion on MUSE. I think I've read many articles that say MUSE is "Prog. Related". If anyone has any strong opinions on this, let's keep those responses less accusatory. After all, we're here for 'friendly' discussion, right?? Or if you MUST let off steam, send PM to me, and don't subject the rest of the group to this. Anyway, keep it friendly guys! P.S. Music is all about personal choice; we all have different opinions on different stuff. It's a very subjective exercise.

I enjoy them alot. Prog or not, who cares. 

walrus wrote: Greats vocals, great guitar work, good drummer, and a very  rythmical bassist. I should say they're a great band, almost as good as radiohead, but they're on the way. Good adittion to ProgArchives..

I wholeheartedly agree!
Just one thing: to me they are FAR BETTER than Radiohead.
The latter often bore me, the former never!

In particular I love some of their songs like Citizen Erased, Bliss, Microcuts, Apocalypse Please, Hysteria and above all the wonderful Stockholm Syndrome.

Way to go, men!

Tony R wrote: Some of the comments here are bizaare to say the least. If not a fully-fledged Prog Rock group (to my mind they are as Prog as TMV) they certainly easily qualify as Prog-Related. Absolution is a very good album brimming with ideas and inventiveness.To me only the most narrow-minded of Prog Fans wouldnt get something out of it. Stellar review by Certif1ed too. Describes the album perfectly

Indeed.Absolution blew me away on first listening.They have many prog sensabilities as a band and went out of their way to create something that has different textures and ideas. Essentially I beleive they are a rock band with prog leanings so the category of 'Prog related' is fine. People too often forget that prog rock is a sub genre of rock music and not a sub genre of classical or jazz music.

I wouldn't say I'm a fan, but I like them.

Certif1ed wrote:   Muse have a DVD coming out in December, it's been confirmed (yesterday). Pre-order at Amazon - you know I have... http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000CDINOK/inmusewo rld-21/202-7785689-7301409

 

Also available from play.com (and no delivery charges)

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&titl e=843036&p=57&g=72&pa=sr

Was impressed by the Absolution album and found out about Muse through that. Brilliant showman - the live DVD is well worth watching. I have a work colleague who is developing a stronger interest in prog because I used Muse as a introduction point because of the tastes that he had already developed. He saw them in concert while he was away and was blown away by their performance, particularly their musical virtuosity.

I think the insightful comment about their output bringing some young fans into prog has merit. The clever arrangements will require people unfamiliar with musical complexities to expand their conscious understanding of music, and Muse, like bands such as Porcupine Tree, wether you like them or not, are dominant players in the present and future of progressive rock music because they have the ability to relate to both sides. They are neither so high-brow and eccentric that they have lost touch with the commonality of music, nor are they your everyday popchart bands. *What is the purpose of music anyway!

That there are popular elements to their sound show intelligence, because you sometimes need to get down from your high horse in order to really get the reality of what is going on around you and you will catch a much broader spectrum of support by being broadminded about your musical output rather than being closeminded to the degree of alienating a majority of people. They secret is to neither compromise your musical integrity nor become so precious and pretentious that you end up really making music for no one but people who like sound simply because no one else can stand it. And for what purpose, so that they can say their musical taste is unique and different to everyone else, the inference being - my music is to complex for you to understand - your dumb like everyone else, I'm not. That is in fact regressive because it is a childish attitude that serves only to inflate the esteem of certain individuals whose egos about their music tastes are as big as Rory Gallaghers opinion of his own, but without his bank-balance to at least show something for it.

Some of the original masters of prog could learn a few lessons from the younger up and comers about how to maintain integrity while still remaining relevant and progressive. (and for those of you that would disagree with my comments (and who bag out religion) then I would suggest that you are already religious yourself - about music - because you have your own doctrine and fixed theology on the subject) *check out the definition of religion if you disagree with me.

Subjectively, I can understand why some people may not like or appreciate their music but whatever you do, don't say these bands aren't relevant because these clever musicians are part of the perpetual motion of progressive rock music.