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Frasse 
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 Posted: November 25 2005 at 10:07 |
 ChadFromCanada wrote:
Frasse wrote:
Will they release a single with the only purpose to get them a no 1. hit you mean?
SELLOUTS!!! I would have been mad if I was a Marillion fan.
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If it's a good song, I don't care if they get to number 1. Though to get to number 1 and be appreciated by the masses, you have to sacrifice most of the things that make your music unique.
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Exactly what I mean.
I wasn't aware of Marillion being independent, which of course is a good thing. Hopefully it will give the major record companies something to think about if Marillion gets another hit. I just hope (Even if I'm really not care about Marillion ) that they won't have to sacrifice much to get that hit.
I do want music for music sake and not for money but I admit that musicians too must make a living.
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wtmoore
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 13:34 |
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You know, I can't help thinking this was just a joke. Yes they will
release a single, yes I will buy 15 copies, yes the album will follow,
but when I read the message, I just laughed. It will chart, but no.1
come on people, wheres your sense of humour.
Im sure H will tell you himself he was being humourous
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sleeper
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 16:05 |
wtmoore wrote:
You know, I can't help thinking this was just a joke. Yes they will release a single, yes I will buy 15 copies, yes the album will follow, but when I read the message, I just laughed. It will chart, but no.1 come on people, wheres your sense of humour.
Im sure H will tell you himself he was being humourous
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Mabey, but stranger things have happend.
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Arsillus
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 22:25 |
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barbs
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 23:09 |
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Marillion are certainly not the most prog band out there but their attitude to music marketing is.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 23:22 |
I hope they get a N° hit, I wish Foxtrot, Close to the Edge or Brain Salad Surgery woyuld have gotten some N° 1 hit, nothing would have made me happier than knowing people are trying to listen great music and that there's hope for humanity.
But writting an album with the main purpose of making a N° 1 hit single is really dangerous, they will probably resign to their inheritance and their nature.
If you get a N° hit or multi platinum album making great music, it's simply wonderful, Pink Floyd showed us that this is possible, but I'm afraid that if all Marillion wants is a hit single, they will probably choose the easy path of doing a catchy poppy bland album.
Iván
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Thufir Hawat
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Posted: January 09 2006 at 18:48 |
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video vertigo
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Posted: January 09 2006 at 19:46 |
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if they aren't going for #1 what would they go for?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: January 09 2006 at 19:52 |
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Christmas number one?
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HeirToRuin
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Posted: January 09 2006 at 20:10 |
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Doesn't anyone think that this might be a tongue in cheek statement?
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Posted: January 11 2006 at 00:38 |
new Marillion? sounds good... 
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: January 11 2006 at 00:45 |
HeirToRuin wrote:
Doesn't anyone think that this might be a tongue in cheek statement?
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It's probably a little tongue-in-cheek, but it's not impossible that
they might get a number 1, particularly given the success of the
singles from Marbles.
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Jools
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 09:45 |
If Marillion can still produce music with the beauty and longevity of their 80's hits (and much more music that wasn't a commercial hit) then they can use whatever marketing strategies they see fit as far as I'm concerned.
"Selling out" just means diminishing quality for mass appeal, not necessarily making decent pop music and exposing it to as many people as possible. Thats been Marillion's problem since the early nineties they've done what I (and quite a few others) deem to be some excellent work that is at least on a par with and sometimes (not always) surpasses their 80's output and it's criminal that not enough people are going to get to hear it.
Whats the point in spending all that time writing, rehearsing, arranging and producing something you're immensly proud of, then immortalising it by recording it, to not have anyone except yourselves,the engineer and producer hear it? You might as well not get it published, not record it and forget it instantly.
So my piont is, I suppose, there is a place for good marketing/promotion and the singles chart is a good place to start, and I'm sure there isn't one contributer to this site that is enough of an elitist to have not liked at least one or two pop singles from the last 40-50 years. I agree pop nowadays is generally very poor at best, but it doesn't have to be, Marillion have created the power to change things.
I would only feel robbed or done wrong by the band if the song(s) they release as singles are really poor, then the marketing can be just written off as hype and the band be accused of "selling out". I hope this isn't the case.
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IcedSabbath
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 15:32 |
Flip_Stone wrote:
If The Band Continuing to Call Itself Marillion wants to become big pop stars, then they can continue on their selling-out path, and use and abuse the good Marillion name. They should have changed to a different name after Fish left in my opinion, then disbanded altogether after a This Strange Engine Farewell Tour. What we have now is just a characture (sic?) of their former self...
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This "sell-out path" consisted of a double-album with 3 songs in the 10+ minute mark.
Marillion always had poppier tunes, dude, and they were equally as accessible (Punch and Judy?) and even MORE popular with Fish behind the mic.
Their last album was their most progressive in years.
I'd hardly consider them pop stars.
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tardis
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 18:29 |
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As far as I'm concerned, I couldn't care less about the commercial success of Marillion. Fine. Good for them. But when Fish left, so did the magic.
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rupert
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Posted: February 27 2006 at 13:42 |
Well, Marillion going for number one... no problem. In my opinion, they deserve e much wider/brighter audience, and holding the top spot of the single-charts may make many people listen to the great stuff they've delivered before. All they need is a good song.
I'm a musician having to live from this job, I tend to get angry when non-professionals talk about "Sell outs", they just don't have a notion about what it's like to find yourself under that pressure. To SELL is no bad thing, you have to care about WHAT and HOW you wanna sell it, Marillion are without daubt a band you can put your trust in !!! Number one... to me, they are ( apart from BJH with Woolly Wolstenholme )
Hope they'll crack it !
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: February 27 2006 at 20:48 |
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I say, go for it, if they can successfully get a number one, then good for them. And as Cert said, I very much doubt that the new album will be revert back to the Holidays in Eden sound.
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stonebeard
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Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:07 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
I say, go for it, if they can successfully get a number one, then good for them. And as Cert said, I very much doubt that the new album will be revert back to the Holidays in Eden sound. |
But it might be a continuation of the "You're Gone" sound. Good pop/rock/chill-out club track, bad prog.
Meh, Marillion, though good, hasn't been too interesting since Season's End and Brave.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: March 01 2006 at 14:15 |
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I stopped buying Marillion albums after Fish left and I find they
became a different band and acquired a different audience
although there were the die hards who held out just because of
the name. I`ve heard a lot of the Hogarth stuff and don`t care for it
very much and as far as I`m concerned they are completely different
band and should have re-named themselves. As for airplay, maybe once in
a blue moon will you hear maybe Kayliegh played on classic rock
stations in Canada whereas back when Fish was at the helm Marillion was
all over the airwaves particularily in the early eighties. If they want
to cash in with a #1 hit then they should go for it. Look at all the
money bands lose as result of all this music downloading which is going
on. I`ve got a buddy who doesn`t even buy music anymore. Back in the
70`s and 80`s the problem was cassete tapes and now it`s up to a
new level. I`d be interested in hearing what they came up with.
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ulfskjol
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 10:44 |
I've lost what little respect I had left for this band if this is true.
If the only purpose of writing music is getting a number one hit and make money you should stop writing and get a business career instead! I thought music was about creating because YOU loved it and needed to express yourself musically, not money first and then music.
How very "progressive" of them!
Uffe
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