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sleeper
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Topic: Marillion going for No1 Posted: November 23 2005 at 12:26 |
I've just read on Marillions web site that in the new year Marillion will be releasing a new single and aiming to get their first UK nomber 1 hit to be closely followd by their new album. What I want to know is is this such a good idea. From reading the site, they originolly intended to releas a single next January and that was it but they decided there was no point in building momentum and not doing anything with it so they put back the single releas date so they could produce a new album. I'm worried that this new album could be compromised by the short space of time that they are going to spend on it and also it will be a return to the popier songs of the 90's.
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Frasse
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 22 2004 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 758 |
Posted: November 23 2005 at 12:29 |
Will they release a single with the only purpose to get them a no 1. hit you mean? SELLOUTS!!! I would have been mad if I was a Marillion fan. |
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Posted: November 23 2005 at 12:36 |
From reading there site its the intention, and Your Gone was a top ten hit for them only last year. I think there intention might be to get as many of there fans to buy it like last time. It would really make a mockery of the charts if an obscure prog band made it to No1 on the strength of there fan base, witch is considerably smaller than that of pop groups.
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Drew
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 20 2005 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 12600 |
Posted: November 23 2005 at 12:40 |
Are they played over the radio in England?
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Flip_Stone
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 388 |
Posted: November 23 2005 at 13:09 |
If The Band Continuing to Call Itself Marillion wants to become big pop stars, then they can continue on their selling-out path, and use and abuse the good Marillion name. They should have changed to a different name after Fish left in my opinion, then disbanded altogether after a This Strange Engine Farewell Tour. What we have now is just a characture (sic?) of their former self...
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Manunkind
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 2373 |
Posted: November 23 2005 at 13:13 |
I'm shamelessly looking forward to it.
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Certif1ed
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
Posted: November 23 2005 at 14:12 |
Go for it, Marillion! If an artist says he/she/they do not care about making money, they do not care about living! It's a captalist society and has been for a little while... It's not selling out, it's cashing in - I doubt very much that the next Marillion album will be geared towards the pop audience. |
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horza
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 31 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2530 |
Posted: November 23 2005 at 15:09 |
Kayleigh was pretty pop and featured on Top Of The Pops i'm sure
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
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horza
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 31 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2530 |
Posted: November 23 2005 at 15:21 |
Yes were going for the one and no one complained
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
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Tony Fisher
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 30 2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 967 |
Posted: November 23 2005 at 15:40 |
Jesus, I don't give a damn if they release a single just get to no 1 - I'd just love to see them get the commercial success they deserve and put prog on top again. I'm sick of talentless rappers and manufactured boy and girl bands, useless "rock" bands (did anyone see Babyshambles on Jools Holland; was a band ever more aptly named?) dominating the charts. Go for it boys!! |
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KeyserSoze
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 09 2005 Location: Czech Republic Status: Offline Points: 228 |
Posted: November 23 2005 at 15:55 |
Yes, I've heard Kayleigh many times on a radio. Well, I don't like Marillion though |
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Posted: November 23 2005 at 16:41 |
I like Jools but i turned that episode off, it was rubbish. Like I said before, as long as Marillion continue their upward swing that they started in Marbles, then I'll be one of the fans that supports them, but only i they avoid becoming another pointless pop band. |
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BleedingGum
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 257 |
Posted: November 23 2005 at 16:51 |
I will be surprised if Marillion hit no.1 on chart, even in England. I
wish I am wrong.. but.. I have that doubt since the singer is not that
great.
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...this is called....BleedingGum ... !
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Posted: November 23 2005 at 16:53 |
All it depends on is how many fans they have and the timing of the release, they could but i doubt it. |
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Certif1ed
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
Posted: November 24 2005 at 03:41 |
Well, they had a top 10 hit with the last one - and they didn't try too hard. That really made the Record industry sit up and take notice - that an "old" and "irrelevant" band like Marillion could force their way into the precious charts without going through the machine (and generating loads of money for it). So I hope Marillion can do it again, only bigger and better - and give the record industry another slap. The world needs bands like Marillion - and Radiohead - remember that the latter offered "Kid A" for FREE download BEFORE they released it. EMI/Parlophone nearly had kittens! Only through this approach can the stranglehold of the industry be broken, and music be allowed to be free (ie, it's popular because people like it, not because it's forced down their throats).
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cobb
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 10 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149 |
Posted: November 24 2005 at 04:10 |
Might have been a rant Certif1ed but it was a good one. Why do members here think it is a bad thing for bands to try a bit of commercialism? And don't forget I put up a thread, a while back, that compared the future of Marillion to the path Genesis took.
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Phil
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 17 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1881 |
Posted: November 24 2005 at 04:53 |
I don't mind a bit of commercialism but getting a No 1 Single doesn't
have the same cachet or sales as it used to, say when Kayleigh was a
hit for them. Still if it gets them airplay that helps sell the album,
go for it!!
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: November 24 2005 at 05:17 |
I dont pay any attention to the charts these days at all, so I missed Marillion having a hit last year. It doesn't help that I dont follow Hogart era Marillion either, I guess but I'm a bit confused as to how Marillion market their music these days. Do they sell all their music on line?? If so, did they attain that hight chart position with on line sales alone, or was the single also available in the shops?? If Marillion can have hits, that can only be a good thing...however they do it! |
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The Hemulen
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 31 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 5964 |
Posted: November 24 2005 at 07:32 |
They've always struck me as staunchly commercial in their sound anyway. Their "prog" work sounds more like "epic pop" than anything. I don't see why some Marillion fans are so livid about such a popular and commercial act aiming for number 1.
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sigod
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 17 2004 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 2779 |
Posted: November 24 2005 at 08:44 |
Marillion have a huge and I do mean HUGE, fanbase (at the last count,
about 250,000 worldwide) considering that they record and release the
albums themselves with little or no marketing.
For more information on the 'Marillion Business Model', see the link below. It might astound you. http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep03/articles/marillion.htm Given this, I think a UK No. 1 is a real possibility. |
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