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Points: 3254 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 07:35
Black Sabbath is just hard rock songs which revolves around one riff and simplistic song builups and standard time signatures...i dont understand how on earth they suddenly are so proggy
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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 07:55

Originally posted by Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan wrote:

Black Sabbath is just hard rock songs which revolves around one riff and simplistic song builups and standard time signatures...i dont understand how on earth they suddenly are so proggy

Albums like Sabotage, Master of Reality, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Technical Ecstasy all had prog elements to them. I would agree that they were just hard rock at the core, but they had their thoughtfull and innovative moments.

I would say that an album like Sabotage is more prog than any Metallica I've heard, although I'd say Metallica have the upper hand as musicans.
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 07:55
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I'm sure that someone believes The Stranglers belong here!


There's definitely an argument for the Stranglers to be considered under the 'Art Rock' category for some of their mid-period albums - I've always thought they were The Doors with attitude, anyway

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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 08:01
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

XTC - NO (They are New Wave) They were, are they still? no!

Echo & the Bunnymen - NO (See above) Never were New wave

Yngwie Malmsteen - NO please, just no..!  Spare me.. We'll see!

The Doors - No (Blues)  I agree

Coldplay - Thats got to be a joke..  Its a good long shot?

I would support the inclusion of Black Sabbath and The Who above the above mentioned. That doesn't mean I dont like those bands.

 

Ok, I'm out of touch with XTC. I lost interest after English Settlement (I like that album, and have re-visited it recently) and by the time I heard the Mayor of Simpleton, I knew I'd moved on.

What sort of music was Echo & the Bunnymen? I always heard them as alt/indie/semi goth and emerging from the new wave scene at the end of the 70's/early 80's. Were they not?? I've certainly never regarded them as prog or prog related.
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 08:06
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

XTC - NO (They are New Wave) They were, are they still? no!

Echo & the Bunnymen - NO (See above) Never were New wave

Yngwie Malmsteen - NO please, just no..!  Spare me.. We'll see!

The Doors - No (Blues)  I agree

Coldplay - Thats got to be a joke..  Its a good long shot?

I would support the inclusion of Black Sabbath and The Who above the above mentioned. That doesn't mean I dont like those bands.

 

Ok, I'm out of touch with XTC. I lost interest after English Settlement (I like that album, and have re-visited it recently) and by the time I heard the Mayor of Simpleton, I knew I'd moved on.

What sort of music was Echo & the Bunnymen? I always heard them as alt/indie/semi goth and emerging from the new wave scene at the end of the 70's/early 80's. Were they not?? I've certainly never regarded them as prog or prog related.

Im my opinion the New Wave scene was done and dusted by the time Echo came around, I agree with your other comments on them though, and ..no..they are not prog related!....well, maybe at a stretch!

 

Just checked up about them and they were very much around at the time of New Wave, but it says this about them

Crocodiles established the band in the forefront of the neo-psychedelic movement then sweeping Northern England.

 

Closer to prog than you thought maybe?



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Be Bop Deluxe deserve a place. And you can add Lone Star if my submission ever gets listened to!
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 08:35

Done Chopper!

  • David Bowie
  • Wings
  • Be Bop Deluxe
  • Metallica
  • Kings X
  • Magnum
  • Groundhogs
  • 10cc
  • Iron Maiden
  • Rainbow
  • Wishbone Ash
  • XTC
  • Echo And The Bunnymen
  • Wire
  • The Stranglers
  • Man
  • Budgie
  • Sasafras
  • Paul Gilbert
  • Yngwie Malmsteen
  • Cacophony
  • The Beatles
  • Led Zeppelin
  • Blue Oyster Cult
  • Bjork
  • The Doors
  • Coldplay
  • Lone Star

     

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    Points: 3064     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 09:52
    1. ALAN PARSONS PROJECT
    2. SUPERTRAMP
    3. QUEEN
    4. ROXY MUSIC
    5. KATE BUSH
    6. STYX
    7. MUSE
    8. STEVE VAI
    9. ASIA
    10. BE BOP DELUXE
    11. 10 CC
    12. DAVID BOWIE
    13. MAGNUM
    14. KINGS X
    15. GROUNDHOGS
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    Points: 32995     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 10:13
    ^ What do you want? A lot of yours are already here!
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    Points: 16130     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 10:14
    Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

    1. ALAN PARSONS PROJECT
    2. SUPERTRAMP
    3. QUEEN
    4. ROXY MUSIC
    5. KATE BUSH
    6. STYX
    7. MUSE
    8. STEVE VAI
    9. ASIA
    10. BE BOP DELUXE
    11. 10 CC
    12. DAVID BOWIE
    13. MAGNUM
    14. KINGS X
    15. GROUNDHOGS

    I've hi-lighted those that are already in the archives.

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    Points: 32995     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 10:19

    You forgot Steve Vai Swordie!

     

    aand the ones not highlighted I already mentioned,so..............useless post really!



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    Points: 20033     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 10:59

    Groundhogs eh? I think they were more blues than prog, mind you Split was a great concept album and I seem to remember Thank Christ For the Bomb being quite proggy.

    Interesting story about Groundhogs (well, vaguely). When I was in a band in about 1986, we had a Welsh drummer and we all trekked down to stay the night at his place. On the Saturday evening he took us down to his local club (which was a bit like a working men's club) as he said there was usually a band playing there. Anyway, we went and the band turned out to be Tony McPhee and Groundhogs. Shame they never quite made it big.
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    Points: 16130     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 10:59
    Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

    You forgot Steve Vai Swordie!

     

    aand the ones not highlighted I already mentioned,so..............useless post really!

    Well I got nuffin better to do

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    Points: 13033     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 13:08

    what about Cream or Electirc Light Orchestra

    and Linkin Park??'

    Snowie please add them in your list

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    Points: 32995     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 13:27
    Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

    Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

    You forgot Steve Vai Swordie!

     

    aand the ones not highlighted I already mentioned,so..............useless post really!

    Well I got nuffin better to do

    No not your post is useless you muppet, the other guys...wasisname?
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    Points: 32995     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 13:30
    Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

    what about Cream or Electirc Light Orchestra

    and Linkin Park??'

    Snowie please add them in your list

    With pleasure memowakeman...except Linkin pork that is....

  • David Bowie
  • Wings
  • Be Bop Deluxe
  • Metallica
  • Kings X
  • Magnum
  • Groundhogs
  • 10cc
  • Iron Maiden
  • Rainbow
  • Wishbone Ash
  • XTC
  • Echo And The Bunnymen
  • Wire
  • The Stranglers
  • Man
  • Budgie
  • Sasafras
  • Paul Gilbert
  • Yngwie Malmsteen
  • Cacophony
  • The Beatles
  • Led Zeppelin
  • Blue Oyster Cult
  • Bjork
  • The Doors
  • Coldplay
  • Lone Star
  • Cream
  • Electric Light Orchestra
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    Points: 12600     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 13:50

    Why don't you add Tori Amos?

     

    Not sure I like that list- actually I am sure.
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    Points: 3064     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 15:06

    EXCUSE ME!!! I just wanted to give you a piece of my mind!!!Unhappy
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    Points: 32995     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 18:31
    Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

    EXCUSE ME!!! I just wanted to give you a piece of my mind!!!Unhappy

    Hey don't be low, we're only being a little light hearted!
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    Points: 13033     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2005 at 17:06
    Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

    Why don't you add Tori Amos?

     

    Not sure I like that list- actually I am sure.

    Yeah, Tori Amos Would be a great addition for Snow list

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