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chopper
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 10:59 |
Groundhogs eh? I think they were more blues than prog, mind you Split was a great concept album and I seem to remember Thank Christ For the Bomb being quite proggy.
Interesting story about Groundhogs (well, vaguely). When I was in a band in about 1986, we had a Welsh drummer and we all trekked down to stay the night at his place. On the Saturday evening he took us down to his local club (which was a bit like a working men's club) as he said there was usually a band playing there. Anyway, we went and the band turned out to be Tony McPhee and Groundhogs. Shame they never quite made it big.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 10:19 |
You forgot Steve Vai Swordie!
aand the ones not highlighted I already mentioned,so..............useless post really!
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
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Points: 16130
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 10:14 |
ANDREW wrote:
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ALAN PARSONS PROJECT
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SUPERTRAMP
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QUEEN
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ROXY MUSIC
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KATE BUSH
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STYX
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MUSE
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STEVE VAI
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ASIA
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BE BOP DELUXE
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10 CC
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DAVID BOWIE
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MAGNUM
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KINGS X
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GROUNDHOGS
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I've hi-lighted those that are already in the archives. 
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 10:13 |
^ What do you want? A lot of yours are already here!
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ANDREW
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Location: Italy
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 09:52 |
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ALAN PARSONS PROJECT
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SUPERTRAMP
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QUEEN
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ROXY MUSIC
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KATE BUSH
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STYX
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MUSE
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STEVE VAI
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ASIA
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BE BOP DELUXE
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10 CC
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DAVID BOWIE
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MAGNUM
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KINGS X
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GROUNDHOGS
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 08:35 |
Done Chopper!
David Bowie
Wings
Be Bop Deluxe
Metallica
Kings X
Magnum
Groundhogs
10cc
Iron Maiden
Rainbow
Wishbone Ash
XTC
Echo And The Bunnymen
Wire
The Stranglers
Man
Budgie
Sasafras
Paul Gilbert
Yngwie Malmsteen
Cacophony
The Beatles
Led Zeppelin
Blue Oyster Cult
Bjork
The Doors
Coldplay
Lone Star
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chopper
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 08:13 |
Be Bop Deluxe deserve a place. And you can add Lone Star if my submission ever gets listened to!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 08:06 |
Blacksword wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
XTC - NO (They are New Wave) They were, are they still? no!
Echo & the Bunnymen - NO (See above) Never were New wave
Yngwie Malmsteen - NO please, just no..! Spare me.. We'll see!
The Doors - No (Blues) I agree
Coldplay - Thats got to be a joke.. Its a good long shot?
I would support the inclusion of Black Sabbath and The Who above the above mentioned. That doesn't mean I dont like those bands.
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Ok, I'm out of touch with XTC. I lost interest after English Settlement (I like that album, and have re-visited it recently) and by the time I heard the Mayor of Simpleton, I knew I'd moved on.
What sort of music was Echo & the Bunnymen? I always heard them as alt/indie/semi goth and emerging from the new wave scene at the end of the 70's/early 80's. Were they not?? I've certainly never regarded them as prog or prog related.
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Im my opinion the New Wave scene was done and dusted by the time Echo came around, I agree with your other comments on them though, and ..no..they are not prog related! ....well, maybe at a stretch!
Just checked up about them and they were very much around at the time of New Wave, but it says this about them
Crocodiles established the band in the forefront of the neo-psychedelic movement then sweeping Northern England.
Closer to prog than you thought maybe?
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 08:01 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
XTC - NO (They are New Wave) They were, are they still? no!
Echo & the Bunnymen - NO (See above) Never were New wave
Yngwie Malmsteen - NO please, just no..! Spare me.. We'll see!
The Doors - No (Blues) I agree
Coldplay - Thats got to be a joke.. Its a good long shot?
I would support the inclusion of Black Sabbath and The Who above the above mentioned. That doesn't mean I dont like those bands.
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Ok, I'm out of touch with XTC. I lost interest after English Settlement (I like that album, and have re-visited it recently) and by the time I heard the Mayor of Simpleton, I knew I'd moved on.
What sort of music was Echo & the Bunnymen? I always heard them as alt/indie/semi goth and emerging from the new wave scene at the end of the 70's/early 80's. Were they not?? I've certainly never regarded them as prog or prog related.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Jim Garten
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 07:55 |
Snow Dog wrote:
I'm sure that someone believes The Stranglers belong here! |
There's definitely an argument for the Stranglers to be considered under the 'Art Rock' category for some of their mid-period albums - I've always thought they were The Doors with attitude, anyway
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 07:55 |
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
Black Sabbath is just hard rock songs which revolves around one riff and simplistic song builups and standard time signatures...i dont understand how on earth they suddenly are so proggy  |
Albums like Sabotage, Master of Reality, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Technical Ecstasy all had prog elements to them. I would agree that they were just hard rock at the core, but they had their thoughtfull and innovative moments.
I would say that an album like Sabotage is more prog than any Metallica I've heard, although I'd say Metallica have the upper hand as musicans.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 07:35 |
Black Sabbath is just hard rock songs which revolves around one riff and simplistic song builups and standard time signatures...i dont understand how on earth they suddenly are so proggy
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 07:32 |
Blacksword wrote:
XTC - NO (They are New Wave) They were, are they still? no!
Echo & the Bunnymen - NO (See above) Never were New wave
Yngwie Malmsteen - NO please, just no..! Spare me.. We'll see!
The Doors - No (Blues) I agree
Coldplay - Thats got to be a joke.. Its a good long shot?
I would support the inclusion of Black Sabbath and The Who above the above mentioned. That doesn't mean I dont like those bands.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 07:21 |
Blacksword wrote:
XTC - NO (They are New Wave)
Echo & the Bunnymen - NO (See above)
Yngwie Malmsteen - NO please, just no..! Spare me..
The Doors - No (Blues)
Coldplay - Thats got to be a joke..
I would support the inclusion of Black Sabbath and The Who above the above mentioned. That doesn't mean I dont like those bands.
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Well if Black Sabbath could be here then even Coldplay could have been here 
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 07:19 |
XTC - NO (They are New Wave)
Echo & the Bunnymen - NO (See above)
Yngwie Malmsteen - NO please, just no..! Spare me..
The Doors - No (Blues)
Coldplay - Thats got to be a joke..
I would support the inclusion of Black Sabbath and The Who above the above mentioned. That doesn't mean I dont like those bands.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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darren
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Joined: October 31 2005
Location: Canada
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 07:07 |
I'm not sure I understand this thread but what about FM? Nash The Slash?
How about Klaatu?
Laurie Anderson?
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"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
- Leonard Cohen
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 06:32 |
Eetu Pellonpää wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Budgie |
Thats a very nice band, I like their 5 first albums much. But are there much progressive elements in their songs? They had couple bit longer songs, some mellotrons and covers by Roger Dean, but musically they mostly resemble the good old BLACK SABBATH, no?
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True, but maybe its enough for Prog related?
Prog Related Rock and Pop Bands and Artists after 1970 who were not truly “prog” (as that term is generally and broadly defined, even by the site), but who were clearly not “mainstream” or simply “rock” bands.
A wide subgenre that encompasses two kinds of bands/artist, that either consist of progressive artist that strayed away from their progressive roots into mainstream rock or were influenced by progressive rock.
Even though the music by these artists is sometimes unrelated it had things in common with prog music in that it was very structured and even adventurous, sometimes hard or heavy, sometimes mellow, strong melodies, good hooks are an integral part of most of the material. Sometimes these artists pioneered other rock genres.
Though most of these artist can't really be considered progressive themselves, their relation to progressive music is not to be underestimated.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 06:31 |
Eetu Pellonpää wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Budgie |
Thats a very nice band, I like their 5 first albums much. But are there much progressive elements in their songs? They had couple bit longer songs, some mellotrons and covers by Roger Dean, but musically they mostly resemble the good old BLACK SABBATH, no?
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Even BLACK SABBATH and THE WHO has been suggested 
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 06:29 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Budgie |
Thats a very nice band, I like their 5 first albums much. But are there much progressive elements in their songs? They had couple bit longer songs, some mellotrons and covers by Roger Dean, but musically they mostly resemble the good old BLACK SABBATH, no?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 06:22 |
^^ Ok
David Bowie
Wings
Be Bop Deluxe
Metallica
Kings X
Magnum
Groundhogs
10cc
Iron Maiden
Rainbow
Wishbone Ash
XTC
Echo And The Bunnymen
Wire
The Stranglers
Man
Budgie
Sasafras
Paul Gilbert
Yngwie Malmsteen
Cacophony
The Beatles
Led Zeppelin
Blue Oyster Cult
Bjork
The Doors
Coldplay
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