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The Wizard
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:19 |
maidenrulez wrote:
The 5 typical trademarks of a HATE driven review:
1.The use of cliches(The lyrics are poor, the music is cheesy, etc etc)
2.The band is really famous and rated as one of the greats.
3.The comparishment with other bands(How can anyone think this is better than... You should rather listen to...)
4.Exagerations and use of strong words(The worst band ever!, No-one can play their instruments right.)
5.Bashing of fans in the review.(They are so stupid to listen to this music..etc etc)
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sbrushfan
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:33 |
The Wizard wrote:
maidenrulez wrote:
The 5 typical trademarks of a HATE driven review:
1.The use of cliches(The lyrics are poor, the music is cheesy, etc etc)
2.The band is really famous and rated as one of the greats.
3.The comparishment with other bands(How can anyone think this is better than... You should rather listen to...)
4.Exagerations and use of strong words(The worst band ever!, No-one can play their instruments right.)
5.Bashing of fans in the review.(They are so stupid to listen to this music..etc etc)
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The Miracle
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 19:08 |
Sean Trane wrote:
IN THE LAND OF GREY AND PINK Words and Music by Richard Sinclair |
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So we'll sail away for just one day to the land where the punk weed grows Won't need any money, just fingers and your toes And when it's dark our boat will park on a land of warm and green Pick our fill of punk weed and smoke it till we bleed, that's all we'll need While sailing back in morning light, we'll wash our teeth in the sea And when the day gets really bright, we'll go to sea drinking tea
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Zac M
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:19 |
The Miracle wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
IN THE LAND OF GREY AND PINK Words and Music by Richard Sinclair |
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So we'll sail away for just one day to the land where the punk weed grows Won't need any money, just fingers and your toes And when it's dark our boat will park on a land of warm and green Pick our fill of punk weed and smoke it till we bleed, that's all we'll need While sailing back in morning light, we'll wash our teeth in the sea And when the day gets really bright, we'll go to sea drinking tea
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As am I, an original vinyl pressing at that
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Jimbo
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Posted: November 18 2005 at 06:24 |
Art Rock (Studio Album, 1976)
KANSAS "Leftoverture"
Review (Permanent link) by
peter
Posted 6:21:09 AM EST, 11/18/2005
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WHAT??????????????????????????????WHY LEFTOVERTURE IS 89??????????????????????????THIS
ALBUM ISJUST AMAZING!!!!!!!UNBELIEVABLE SONGS SUCH AS MIRACLES OUT OF
NOWHERE,THE WALL.MAGNIFICENT ROCKERS SUCH AS CARRY ON MY WAYWARD SON
AND WHAT'S ON MY MIND.AND FINALLY THE ONE MAGNUM OPUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OH MY
GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HIGHLIGHT IS KERRY LIVGREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
5 STARS
WHAT A GREEEEEEEAAAATT REVIEWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: November 18 2005 at 07:20 |
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chopper
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Posted: November 18 2005 at 07:38 |
WiguJimbo wrote:
Art Rock (Studio Album, 1976) KANSAS "Leftoverture" Review (Permanent link) by peter Posted 6:21:09 AM EST, 11/18/2005
![5 stars](../Progressive_rock_discography_images/5stars.gif) WHAT??????????????????????????????WHY LEFTOVERTURE IS 89??????????????????????????THIS ALBUM ISJUST AMAZING!!!!!!!UNBELIEVABLE SONGS SUCH AS MIRACLES OUT OF NOWHERE,THE WALL.MAGNIFICENT ROCKERS SUCH AS CARRY ON MY WAYWARD SON AND WHAT'S ON MY MIND.AND FINALLY THE ONE MAGNUM OPUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HIGHLIGHT IS KERRY LIVGREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! 5 STARS WHAT A GREEEEEEEAAAATT REVIEWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Obviously typed by someone whose fingers keep getting stuck to the keyboarddddddddddddddd.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: November 18 2005 at 08:21 |
sbrushfan wrote:
RUSH Moving Pictures Review (Permanent link) by Symphonic Age @ 4:06:20 PM EST, 6/17/2005
![5 stars](https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_images/5stars.gif) — Finally the Rush dare to a fine disc to if same and there succeed! To the face of a lot of imitators (Dream Theatre in primis) that I sharpen imitate, song like "YYZ", "Tom Sawyer" or "Witch Hunt" are inimitable (and the first two I consider them Hard Rock to the pure state while "Witch Hunt" the masterpiece of the Symphonic Art Rock!) You ponder imitators... You ponder!
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Symphonic Age is one of our non-English speaking reviewers who uses an online translator. If the reviews make approximate sense I leave them, if they don't I delete the text and leave the rating. I agree this one is unintelligible.![Confused](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
Kansas review dealt with.![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
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sbrushfan
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Posted: November 18 2005 at 14:10 |
Easy Livin wrote:
sbrushfan wrote:
RUSH Moving Pictures Review (Permanent link) by Symphonic Age @ 4:06:20 PM EST, 6/17/2005
![5 stars](https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_images/5stars.gif) — Finally the Rush dare to a fine disc to if same and there succeed! To the face of a lot of imitators (Dream Theatre in primis) that I sharpen imitate, song like "YYZ", "Tom Sawyer" or "Witch Hunt" are inimitable (and the first two I consider them Hard Rock to the pure state while "Witch Hunt" the masterpiece of the Symphonic Art Rock!) You ponder imitators... You ponder!
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Symphonic Age is one of our non-English speaking reviewers who uses an online translator. If the reviews make approximate sense I leave them, if they don't I delete the text and leave the rating. I agree this one is unintelligible.![Confused](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
Kansas review dealt with.![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
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salmacis
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Posted: November 19 2005 at 09:52 |
Prog Related (Studio Album, 2004) SAGA "Network"Review (Permanent link) by Hét Lichaam Posted 9:08:47 AM EST, 11/19/2005
![5 stars](https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_images/5stars.gif) Again, the word neo in the introduction, wat a lot of cr&*&p, pardon my french. If you listen to Saga for the first time it's an album that will blow you away. Musicaly one of the best albums in the last years. If you are a die hardfan from the first album, like I am, than you have to think that they are on the way back to being one of the best progbands ever. There are a few weak albums, but the flame keeps burning to buy more. And this one is one to have. Nice sound effects, but the guitarho*&y, pardon again, should buy something else and never visit this page again. If you like guitars go look for the solo albums from Ian Crichton, if you like good songwriting than buy the latest from M. Sadler, but don't dismiss this one.....one to have. I will give it 5 stars to boost the average.
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Not a very good review at all imo- the reviewer even admits it only gets 5 stars to boost the average ratings...
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Easy Livin
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Posted: November 19 2005 at 10:41 |
salmacis wrote:
Prog Related (Studio Album, 2004) SAGA "Network" Review (Permanent link) by Hét Lichaam Posted 9:08:47 AM EST, 11/19/2005
![5 stars](https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_images/5stars.gif) Again, the word neo in the introduction, wat a lot of cr&*&p, pardon my french. If you listen to Saga for the first time it's an album that will blow you away. Musicaly one of the best albums in the last years. If you are a die hardfan from the first album, like I am, than you have to think that they are on the way back to being one of the best progbands ever. There are a few weak albums, but the flame keeps burning to buy more. And this one is one to have. Nice sound effects, but the guitarho*&y, pardon again, should buy something else and never visit this page again. If you like guitars go look for the solo albums from Ian Crichton, if you like good songwriting than buy the latest from M. Sadler, but don't dismiss this one.....one to have. I will give it 5 stars to boost the average.
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Not a very good review at all imo- the reviewer even admits it only gets 5 stars to boost the average ratings...
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horza
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 06:33 |
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=57115
Dark Side of the Moon review
And he claims Floyd aint even prog
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Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Pafnutij
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 06:55 |
horza wrote:
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=57115
Dark Side of the Moon review
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Actually, I was referring specifically to DTSoM not being prog , not Floyd in general.
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 08:30 |
Psychedelic/Space Rock (Studio Album, 1973) PINK FLOYD "Dark Side of the Moon"Review (Permanent link) by Pafnutij Posted 6:01:56 AM EST, 11/20/2005
![1 stars](https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_images/1stars.gif) Scientists around the world should quit researching stuff like genetic engineering and come up with a proper explanation of why this album is so (annoyingly) popular. I like Floyd - they don't have the musicianship of bands like Genesis, but I can see what people like about The Wall, Wish You Were Here, even Division Bell. However , I cant see anything special about "Dark Side..." at all. Maybe they cover every CD, vinyl or cassette copy with some hallucinogenic substance that makes everyone a fan upon contact (which would explain why I don't like it as I have a burned copy). Seriously, almost nothing about this album interests me : not the music (the songs are very simplistic, usually based on some common chord progression that lasts throughout the track), nor the concept (we all know war and money is evil, get over it). The only stuff that kept my attention was "Us and Them" ( nice sax solo by Dick Perry) and a couple metaphors in the lyrics I liked. And did I mention this ain't even prog?
This is a dreadful review - and treads a fine line, as it does pass an opinion on the album - but only just.
Mostly it's a complaint about the album - a forum post rather than a review of the music.
I vote it gets deleted.
And you're wrong, Pafnutj - it IS very much a Prog album. Complexity and chord progressions have nothing to do with Prog, and the concept is sooo much deeper than you have realised.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 11:04 |
I did take a good look at that PF review. Although I disagree with the contents (that of course is not the point) I reckoned it says enough about the album to remain.
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 03:34 |
Easy Livin wrote:
I did take a good look at that PF review. Although I disagree with the contents (that of course is not the point) I reckoned it says enough about the album to remain. |
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Agree with you, Bob!
Just because we do not agree with what is aid in the review does not mean his point of view is invalid. He means no obvious disrespect and is actually funny in downing the album.
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 12:25 |
BTW...thought I'd list these two. The first one is inappropriate, but the second one is...you'll see why.
YES Tales From Topographic Oceans Review (Permanent link) by Sead S. Fetahagic @ 11:09:49 AM EST, 6/4/2005 PROG REVIEWER
![2 stars](https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_images/2stars.gif) — I usually agree with Hugues' reviews and this is no exception! It must be said finally loud and clear that many of our beloved prog bands occasionally produced crap albums and totaly uninspired works. YES is no exception and as one of previous reviews noted well, this album is perhaps a good example why some music lovers hate progressive rock. Double LP of boring, quasi-philosophical "space" trips with lots of pompose and over- grandiose music solos, lacking basic emotions needed to intrigue the listener. I already stated in "CTTE" review that if it was a peak of their career it also announced a downfall to the arena of showmanship of "rock dinosurus", which created some of the most empty and self-indulgent music in the world and invoked the coming of the "punk saviours"! Granted, YES produced even worse albums than "Topographic" (see "Tormato"), but here it all started. I could personnaly listen only to some parts of "Ritual" without the urge to approach the turntable , lift up the cartridge, take the record, place it back into the sleeve, put it on the shelf and forget about it forever. If you are a newbie into prog, avoid this. Listen to the first five albums and if you get yourself addicted to YES then you may wish to complete your collection with this one. 1,5-2 stars.
NOW...here's the second one.
YES Tales From Topographic Oceans Review (Permanent link) by Drew @ 10:03:51 PM EST, 6/19/2005
![2 stars](https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_images/2stars.gif) — I usually agree with Hugues' reviews and this is no exception! It must be said finally loud and clear that many of our beloved prog bands occasionally produced crap albums and totaly uninspired works. YES is no exception and as one of previous reviews noted well, this album is perhaps a good example why some music lovers hate progressive rock. Double LP of boring, quasi-philosophical "space" trips with lots of pompose and over- grandiose music solos, lacking basic emotions needed to intrigue the listener. I already stated in "CTTE" review that if it was a peak of their career it also announced a downfall to the arena of showmanship of "rock dinosurus", which created some of the most empty and self- indulgent music in the world and invoked the coming of the "punk saviours"! Granted, YES produced even worse albums than "Topographic" (see "Tormato"), but here it all started. I could personnaly listen only to some parts of "Ritual" without the urge to approach the turntable , lift up the cartridge, take the record, place it back into the sleeve, put it on the shelf and forget about it forever. If you are a newbie into prog, avoid this. Listen to the first five albums and if you get yourself addicted to YES then you may wish to complete your collection with this one. 1,5-2 stars.
They're exactly the same, guys. To all the newbies....PLEASE be original in your writing!
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Easy Livin
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 15:08 |
Well spotted SBF, I'll deal with it!
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 19:39 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Well spotted SBF, I'll deal with it!![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) |
Thankya, Easy...uh...thankyuhveruhmuuuuuch!
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 21:46 |
TOOL Lateralus Review (Permanent link) by theflyingjunior @ 4:44:13 PM EST, 4/2/2005
![1 stars](https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_images/1stars.gif) — One star is only for the reasons that you will read in next few words. .For those who really like prog music in the true meaning of this genre of art, this definitely is not prog. If you search for hard rock, metal deviations, some experimental stuff, maybe you will find this enjoyable, but if you look for true prog music (at least neo prog) please listen to something else. Even in metal prog you could find music that could be compared to the old masters of prog, (Dream Theater, Liquid Tension experiment, Karmakanic, Ayreon, etc.....) but Tools are not in this stream. Be sure of this. Hope I am being helpful advising you not to spend money and time in something that at last you will not like. Take only the time to listen to a sample of them and you will understand. This comment is valid in the same way for Radiohead that is simply Brit pop with quite good musicians and good ideas but nothing more then this
WHAT? im not really a tool fan and a very new member but i think most of u can see why this review NEEDS to be taken out. All it is a big explanation on why tool isnt prog, no review and a one star as well.
thanks.. mike
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