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chopper 
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 Posted: October 11 2005 at 15:33 |
 gdub411 wrote:
chopper wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
Of course the Beatles are prog. They invented the whole thing. King
Crimson just ripped them off is all. I mean c'mon...Bill Bruford
couldn't hold a candle to Ringo's dynamic drumming and Robert Fripp is
an amateur compared to the late great George Harrison. I mean listen to
Love Me Do and tell me how a song with such storyline lyrics, its
constant tempo changes with all the strange time signatures
couldn't be prog. The best part of it is their non repetiveness in
their complex lyrics...
I mean....Love Love Me DO
You Know I Love You
I'll Always Be True
So please.....Love Me DO......absolute geniuses at work here fellows.
and the Rolling Stones are of course heavy metal...Under My Thumb
proves it all. I mean they may as well be saying ...We're Heavy Metal,
We're Heavy Metal.....Yeeeaahhhhh!!(thats a scream by the by)
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Oh...another overly stuffy elitist Brit.... ...how surprising...sink back into the decadent mire you crawled out of Clapper. |
OK.
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Tony R
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 15:41 |
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Go get him Chopper !
Gdub cant help it,he lives in The Comedy Third World!
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flying teapot
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 16:30 |
The beatles may have dabbed in Psychadelic music, but never in Prog. Even though some think Sgt Peppers was a concept album, it hardly can be said that it is Prog. The later Beatles as well as the stones in 69 did the psychadelic stuff...for that matter the stones proably were more Prog inclined than the Beatles...
Like a rainbow or Lady Jane etc. I think if Brian Jones had his way he would have gone Prog...unfortunately he ended up face down in a swimming pool.
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The Slime
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 16:32 |
Beatles are only progressive in looks (well, in that age anyway...) but progressive in music,...
It's safer to say that Elvis' music was progressive.
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The Slime I am!
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Bones Rasta
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 14:53 |
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i would say looking at it purely from what the word "progressive" means most definatly as they did open up many avenues for "rock" bands to travel along
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krauthead
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 18:10 |
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In some ways and on some albums there's some moments of "progishness", so I say NO they're not prog
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Certif1ed
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 07:46 |
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Time to resurrect this old chestnut - not as prog, but prog-related (ie, not the early stuff, but later...)?
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Bj-1
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 08:18 |
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I voted NO, even though they influenced a lot of Prog and Rock bands.
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progadicto
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 19:19 |
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Beatles are just a 60's pop band... nothing less nothing more... like Monkees... maybe they inffluenced some psychedelic bands but I don't think Beatles are prog...
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chopper
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 08:24 |
progadicto wrote:
Beatles are just a 60's pop band... nothing less nothing more... like Monkees... maybe they inffluenced some psychedelic bands but I don't think Beatles are prog... |
That is SO wrong - you cannot compare The Beatles to The Monkees. "Just a 60s pop band", I think not. I can name Yes, Genesis and Gentle Giant as 3 prog bands influenced by The Beatles and there are certainly others.
I need to go and lie down in a dark room now.
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zabriskiepoint
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 08:54 |
krusty wrote:
No, they were a 60's pop band, only of interest to those who were around at the same time.
Virtuoso musicians = No
Experimental / Inventive = No
Energy or Soul & nbsp; & nbsp; = No
Why does anybody who wasn't around when they were, like them? I know i don't... and I don't think of them as prog either.
Glad i got that of my chest 
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Really dude, just shut the f**k up and go listen to you snobby sh*t.
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tired_time
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 10:53 |
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The Beatles was my favorite group for a long time and i know all their album songs. These in my opinion are really prog :
I am the Warlus
A day in a life
Strawberry fields
Dear Prudence
Revoliution 9
Savoy Truffle
Because
I want you(she's so heavy)
and maybe there are some more
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chopper
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 11:25 |
zabriskiepoint wrote:
krusty wrote:
No, they were a 60's pop band, only of interest to those who were around at the same time.
Virtuoso musicians = No
Experimental / Inventive = No
Energy or Soul &n bsp;& nbsp; & amp; nbsp; = No
Why does anybody who wasn't around when they were, like them? I know i don't... and I don't think of them as prog either.
Glad i got that of my chest
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Really dude, just shut the f**k up and go listen to you snobby sh*t. |
Wow, say what you really mean!!!
I must say I agree with you though. To say "Experimental / Inventive = No" for The Beatles is just so wrong. Obviously he's never heard Tomorrow Never Knows, Revolution #9, I Am The Walrus etc etc.
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Space Dimentia
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 11:42 |
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What about Sgt Pepper? The period between Sgt Pepper and Rubber Soul when they were all whacked out on drugs and made 2 very proggy albums with out them you wouldnt have King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Hawkwind etc who started in the psychdelic pop then went on to evolve that into prog rock.
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M. B. Zapelini
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:51 |
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No way! Beatles were fantastic, but they're not prog!
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eduardossc
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 13:08 |
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They sure are proggier than the Monkeys. They are not 1/3 as prog as Caravan, despite Caravanīs prog sucks.
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