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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 19:52
Originally posted by Pr@gmatic Pr@gmatic wrote:


Hi,

I'd like to add something.

I wish one day everyone will learn how to open their minds and use Cannabis sativa wisely as a psychoactive. It's truly one of the most beautiful things you could ever experience while being alive. And, of course: moderation is the key, as with all things.

Thank you.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 19:58
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Pr@gmatic Pr@gmatic wrote:


Hi,

I'd like to add something.

I wish one day everyone will learn how to open their minds and use Cannabis sativa wisely as a psychoactive. It's truly one of the most beautiful things you could ever experience while being alive. And, of course: moderation is the key, as with all things.

Thank you.

Where have you been lately?



Oh, hey Jody!

These days I barely have time left for the forum.

So don't expect to see me around as often as before.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 19:59
Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

whatever. im tired of fighting over this. but im guaranteed that all of you who laugh at my judgements prolly never touched weed in their life. or if they did, they didnt take it seriously...

Everyone controls his own universe. what happens to your near future is all up to your subconscious. you know that place deep down inside, away from your egos and your personality. (yea thats what i thought. you dont have a clue) that place that most of you who refuse to take drugs probably never WENT TO!. yea... well thats probably the only thing Im sure that exists, everything around us are illusions. You never happen to wonder sometimes if people around you are real? well if you think youll get through life with all the basics of society... good for you... what will you have learned about humanity? nothing... whatever, its your opinions to make drugs looks stupid... But im sure all of you take your daily vitamins, believing youll die old... eat at mcdonalds 3 times per week... and nourrish your body with as much sh*t in 7 days... than someone who smokes a doobie once a week. you guys are as pathetic.

Interesting viewpoint you have there.  As someone who has smoked pot in my past, but who has never taken it seriously as you say, I must point out that there seems to be a bit of self-delusion in that post.  I have nothing against pot myself, hell, I think it should be legalized and I don't think that pot is a gateway to harder drugs.  Nor do I think that pot is as dangerous as alcohol (my drug of choice).  But let's face up to the facts.  You smoke pot, not to get in touch with your inner child, or get closer to your version of god.  You smoke pot to get high.  I have no problem with that at all, but be honest with yourself.  I drink quite a bit and I have no illusion that it's because I'm trying to get in touch with myself, or have a spiritual experience.  I drink to get drunk, plain and simple.  And you smoke pot to get high.  And to state anything else is a cop out.  I'm on your side in the argument, but it's a stronger argument if you say I smoke pot to get high and there's not a damn thing wrong with that.

I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 20:03

^ yea i admit. i smoke pot to get high, but i smoke salvia divinorum to learn spiritually (that is true i really swear.. I mean that drug has a peak of 15 minutes, you cant take that just for fun),

i take mush well. that ones tough, when i take a bit its for the high, but when i take a lot its for the mind altering...

So yea. I admit, many times its for the fun... but there IS some spirituality in there. Im honest

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 20:42

Here's what I think:

You listen to music, and you love it.

You listen to music high, and you realize WHY you love it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 20:55
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

Progtologist. why did you quit? and why did your point of view on it change?

I quit when my first child was born.

I don't hate it,it's just not for me anymore.I was constantly stoned for over a decade and it just got old.I was so tired of being high that when I quit,being straight and clear-headed felt awesome.

I had the same experiance 15 years of being stoned I needed a try at being str8 and it was great ... for the past 6 years I havent touched it and I don`t plan to , its hard work being stoned all day everyday it took alot out of me ... and being str8 has infact made me love prog more I know for a fact you don`t need drugs to enjoy prog ... Prog is the Drug  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 21:05
My high prog picks are : Tales from Topographic Oceans and Relayer

By the time I started listening to prog I coincidentally got out of smoking pot, so I haven't really tried much else other than Yes and Hawkwind.  Hawkwind I couldn't stand while being high, though I enjoy it a lot while sober, and it's incredibly fun while drunk for some reason...

Being for drugs is just as dumb as being against drugs.  Blah blah blah,  my apologies, I didn't feel like reading through the majority of jibber jabber.  As stated before, drugs have the ability to enhance anything, since drugs affect your brain  it's really quite a complex experience to quantify and conclude in one way or another, some will feel spiritual others will just feel like they're having fun or getting scared, whatever.  Alcohol is similar, some get angry and violent, others get loud and goofy, etc...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 21:23
Originally posted by Saviorts Saviorts wrote:

My high prog picks are : Tales from Topographic Oceans

Wow... you must get REALLY high to listen to that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 21:25

I started smoking weed only 5 months ago.  I am 24.  Marijuana enhances prog rock because marijuana enhances life.  Pot is probably one of the greatest things that has ever happened to me because it helps me enjoy life the way life should be enjoyed.  How is prog rock with out it?  Mother f**king fantastic.  How is prog rock with it?  Mother f**king fantastic.  What do I mean when I say that... well we all listen to very awesome music, some of use while stoned, some sober.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 21:26
Originally posted by zabriskiepoint zabriskiepoint wrote:

Originally posted by Saviorts Saviorts wrote:

My high prog picks are : Tales from Topographic Oceans

Wow... you must get REALLY high to listen to that.


No s*&t, can you get some really good stuff?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 21:29
Originally posted by The Green Tank The Green Tank wrote:

Here's what I think:

You listen to music, and you love it.

You listen to music high, and you realize WHY you love it.

nicely put

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 21:31
Originally posted by Nipsey88 Nipsey88 wrote:

Originally posted by zabriskiepoint zabriskiepoint wrote:

Originally posted by Saviorts Saviorts wrote:

My high prog picks are : Tales from Topographic Oceans

Wow... you must get REALLY high to listen to that.


No s*&t, can you get some really good stuff?


More insults to the beloved Oceans?  I must admit I did fall asleep while listening to it high
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 21:54

I remember the first time I listened to Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here while really high, and man was it ever good. But I have to say one thing, after being high for about 2 years its not as good as you seem to make it. Marijuana can enhance your reality because it helps you escape it, the feeling of being high is very good of course, but it gets old after some time. When you realize there are more important things to do in life then sit around and smoke some weed and procrastinate(well thats what I did) you might get a new view on weed, and of course like all drugs if you abuse it things will not turn out right in the end...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 22:27

why screw something as sublime as music with marijuana? just like frank zappa thought, marijuana is not necessary to compose, listen or understand great music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 23:31
Originally posted by Pr@gmatic Pr@gmatic wrote:


Hi,

I'd like to add something.

I wish one day everyone will learn how to open their minds and use Cannabis sativa wisely as a psychoactive. It's truly one of the most beautiful things you could ever experience while being alive. And, of course: moderation is the key, as with all things.

Thank you.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2005 at 00:08
"Drugs are a mind blocker" wasn't that a quote from Mr. Fripp himself?

Drugs don't enhance you thought. In fact, they just block your mind from
the real world. Some people that have figured things out
and have been intelligent, have been on drugs because of stress of their
work and other various reasons. The correlation is not the way you think.
You aren't seeing those waves or whatever you like to call it on LSD, it's in
your mind, it's not real.

EDIT: Let me just add: I know plenty of people that are regular users and
the reason generally is to escape the real world and escape their
problems, or to get high at parties ect. There are many psychological
reasons why people do drugs.
You are just using "I can learn more about the world and change the
world" as your enabler to make it seem like it's good to smoke so you
don't feel bad about doing it. It's a common thing that a lot of people that
use drugs rely on.

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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2005 at 00:14
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

[QUOTE=stebo32]

whatever. im tired of fighting over this. but im guaranteed that all of
you who laugh at my judgements prolly never touched weed in their life.
or if they did, they didnt take it seriously...


Everyone controls his own universe. what happens to your near future
is all up to your subconscious. you know that place deep down inside,
away from your egos and your personality. (yea thats what i thought. you
dont have a clue) that place that most of you who refuse to take drugs
probably never WENT TO!. yea... well thats probably the only thing Im
sure that exists, everything around us are illusions. You never happen to
wonder sometimes if people around you are real? well if you think youll
get through life with all the basics of society... good for you... what will
you have learned about humanity? nothing... whatever, its your opinions
to make drugs looks stupid... But im sure all of you take your daily
vitamins, believing youll die old... eat at mcdonalds 3 times per week...
and nourrish your body with as much sh*t in 7 days... than someone who
smokes a doobie once a week. you guys are as pathetic.



Interesting viewpoint you have there.  As someone who has smoked
pot in my past, but who has never taken it seriously as you say, I must
point out that there seems to be a bit of self-delusion in that post.  I have
nothing against pot myself, hell, I think it should be legalized and I don't
think that pot is a gateway to harder drugs.  Nor do I think that pot is as
dangerous as alcohol (my drug of choice).  But let's face up to the facts. 
You smoke pot, not to get in touch with your inner child, or get closer to
your version of god.  You smoke pot to get high.  I have no problem with
that at all, but be honest with yourself.  I drink quite a bit and I have no
illusion that it's because I'm trying to get in touch with myself, or have a
spiritual experience.  I drink to get drunk, plain and simple.  And you
smoke pot to get high.  And to state anything else is a cop out.  I'm on
your side in the argument, but it's a stronger argument if you say I smoke
pot to get high and there's not a damn thing wrong with that.

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QUOTE]

Right. I would agree with you there. I'm not saying I condone you if you
are smoking to get high and escape reality, I'm just saying not to lie to
yourself about it. Smoking does stop your thought and just gets you high
for the feeling. It's not about becomming more intelligent and inventing
ground breaking ideas about life.
One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2005 at 00:42
    Pot can indeed make you see things in different ways by interrupting your routine way of experiencing life. It doesn't "stop your thought" and it can be used for more than just an escape. Your altered state of perception can be very influential in helping a person to see things in different ways. Even "bad" drug experiences can be eye-opening in that they put a person in a vulnerable state, taking them out of their secure reality of routines. In this interruption of reality, it causes them to think about that very reality that has been interrupted. Drugs are not necessary for this 'awakening' of sorts but they can definitely facilitate the process.

    Personally, my first experience with pot was a bit traumatizing. I ate several brownies from a small tray that contained 13 grams. At first I was fine and then for about an hour I felt like I was on the verge of an out of body experience, like I was being sucked into a vortex, spinning. This coupled with anxiety and panic attacks. It was not fun. However, after feeling like this for an of existential hell, I finally just laid down and accepted it, took some deep breaths and was fine the rest of the night. Sublime. I think my reaction was in part due to my past beliefs about the drug; I was taught like many others that drugs were really bad and my subconscious reacted as if I was committing a transgression of my values; hence the anxiety and panic. 

    I didn't smoke pot for a while after this, but eventually got back into it and enjoyed it. Also, it was only after I smoked pot that I began having borderline out-of body experiences in my sleep, which is interesting. I smoke it occassionally for a different experience, but my drug of choice is alcohol. To do drugs is a choice and if one can handle drugs responsibly within their own lives then what gives others the right to ridicule a drug user?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2005 at 01:51
Prog enhances marijuana.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2005 at 01:56
Marijuana enhances memory loss.
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