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DallasBryan 
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 Topic: VDGG vs Spirit
Posted: November 11 2005 at 20:05 |
I was thinking today of comparing an early 70's English act with an early 70's American act
so, I picked VDGG and Spirit for a comparison.
Listening to Spirit's Dr. Sardonicus is like lounging in a big Longhorn leather chair in a dark opium den in Bangkok.
Listening to VDGG's Pawn Hearts is like trying to relax on a broke down poolside chair on a Vietnamese leech infested jungle river.
Well not that bad, but!
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yargh
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 20:29 |
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I don't think these bands have much in common, but Spirit's first four albums sure are good! They weren't the same after the first split, though, whereas I think that VDGG was almost as good after their first split.
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The Lost Chord
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 20:55 |
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SPIRIT, BY FAR!!! Randy California will always be remember as an amazing musician, and that band just OWNED, VDGG has nOTHING on them!!!
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Dick Heath
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 21:25 |
 The Lost Chord wrote:
SPIRIT, BY FAR!!! Randy
California will always be remember as an amazing musician, and that
band just OWNED, VDGG has nOTHING on them!!! |
I presume in your humble opinion?
But explain JoJo Gunne and that mediocre AOR Jay Ferguson played after..........................
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M. B. Zapelini
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Posted: November 12 2005 at 05:29 |
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SPIRIT & VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR, I like both bands. In fact I prefer Van Der Graaf, but it's only a matter of opinion. Randy California really shines as a guitar player, Ed Cassidy and John Locke are also great musicians, although a bit underrated. As it comes to Ferguson and Andes - well, Ferguson was a talented songwriter and has a nice voice, but he didn't make anything good after leaving Spirit. Never liked Andes bass playing. So he does not have anything to offer, apart from a curious career: Spirit, Jo Jo Gunne, Firefall and Heart...
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"He's a man of the past and one of the present"
PETER HAMMILL
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horza
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Posted: November 12 2005 at 05:36 |
well, not really knowing these bands i will listen to both and let you know
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: November 12 2005 at 08:14 |
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I know them both and even saw them both live in concert. My vote goes to VdGG.
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Zargus
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Posted: November 12 2005 at 11:22 |
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Spirit who? Sorry never heard of not that im the an expert i only know the big prog names im afraid, but i dont think this Spirit thing can come close to the greatest prog band ever wich is Van Der Graaf Generator.
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DallasBryan
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Posted: November 12 2005 at 11:24 |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: November 12 2005 at 15:14 |
Well Spirit was done by 12 dreams in 70 (the rest of the albums is not even the shadow of the first four albums) while VDGG started in 70 (if you count out TAGM)
no real comparison points , but I rate 12 Dreams higher than Pawn Hearts (my fave from both bands) although in the long run VDGG was certainly better
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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matti meikäläin
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Posted: November 12 2005 at 15:20 |
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van der graaf generator
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DallasBryan
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Posted: November 12 2005 at 16:19 |
although in the long run, VDGG kept making a bunch
of medioce stuff and should have disbanded but
kept on creating semi crap to crap which waste all
our money chasing, well CRAP! 
1 or 2 VDGG's and 1 or 2 Peter Hammil's solos are
worth a listen, but nothing to stop the world! Arthur
Brown's Journey or Alan Parsons Tales of... kinda
blows them out of the water and makes them a lowly
2nd rate obscure english fanatic band of little count,
IMO! Peter is a talent but never made anything that is
world classic, though he flirted with the concept! 
Edited by DallasBryan
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