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kirklott
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Topic: Prog Fans: High IQs? Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:11 |
Prog music generally is complex, and often consists of longer compositions that require longer attention spans. The lyrics tend to be sophisticated.
Interviews with my favorites musicians, from Tony Banks to Bill Bruford, from Peter Garbiel to Greg Lake and Chris Squire, reveal them to be bright, eloquent people.
Without being embarrassed by about tooting your own horn, do prog fans generally have above-average intelligence? Is prog perhaps modern music for the intelligentsia?
UPDATE/CLARIFICATION REGARDING THIS THREAD:
1) The question posed by this thread: Do today's prog fans often have above-average intelligence? This thread is not about whether people are 'smart' because they listen to prog.
2) This thread is not elitist. This thread does not say prog is 'smarter' than, for example, rap or nu-metal. And it's ok to say you're bright.
3) It's widely understood that IQ tests have their limitations. However, at present, they remain the most widely accepted tool for the unwieldy task of quantifying intelligence.
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"Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin
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cobb
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:14 |
No, haven't you been reading some of the posts on this site....
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King of Loss
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:16 |
^ Good one, Cobb!
But, yes overall, Prog fans do definitely have intelligence, even though we tend not to use it at certain times
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stonebeard
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:17 |
anyone have a link where i can find out my IQ????
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:19 |
stonebeard wrote:
anyone have a link where i can find out my IQ???? |
Why, here's your IQ my good man:
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cobb
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:19 |
Try this one http://www.gep.co.uk/iq/
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King of Loss
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:24 |
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yargh
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:24 |
Indirectly. As music goes, prog isn't exactly the elite in terms of complexity or technique. If prog fans are geniuses, what are jazz and classical fans... super geniuses? I think that people who are genuinely interested in music as music, and who come from backgrounds that aren't prejudiced against rock music, will probably like at least some prog. People who have genuine interests in music as such tend to be (in my experience) of greater than average intelligence.
But saying that liking prog means you're smart... I've read enough brain-dead gushing on the internet from Rush and Marillion fanboys to disprove that one many times over.
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valravennz
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:27 |
Yep I would say that prog music is probably more appreciated by those of an above average IQ
Though looking at some of the postings on this forum, one has to wonder....
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stonebeard
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:28 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
anyone have a link where i can find out my IQ???? |
Why, here's your IQ my good man:
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You didn't think I expected a neo-prog related post from the likes of you? Tsk, Tsk...
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UltimaPrime
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:32 |
I enjoyed this one a bit more:
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:32 |
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
anyone have a link where i can find out my IQ???? |
Why, here's your IQ my good man:
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You didn't think I expected a neo-prog related post from the likes of you? Tsk, Tsk...
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Oh I knew that you would know that I would know to put a neo-prog related post in response to your post about you wanting to know what your IQ was.
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thefalafelking
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:32 |
I don't know about my IQ, but I tend to be more the intellectial type of person. I study linguistics and literature (spanish and latin) right at this moment, I listen to prog and jazz (and i hate punk) and i like to analyse people and circulmtances. I think things through and through, which sometimes gives me a really bad feeling. this feeling is one of the big disadvantages of 'thinking'.
I don't know if my studies have anything in common with listening to progmusic, but where I life, people that completely differ from me (intellectually) listen to teenage punk rock and dance music for the masses, I guess this a sign on the wall! but I can't tell anything definitive about this matter, It's just how I feel about it.
cheers
thefalafelking
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kirklott
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:34 |
yargh wrote:
Indirectly. As music goes, prog isn't exactly the elite in terms of complexity or technique. If prog fans are geniuses, what are jazz and classical fans... super geniuses? I think that people who are genuinely interested in music as music, and who come from backgrounds that aren't prejudiced against rock music, will probably like at least some prog. People who have genuine interests in music as such tend to be (in my experience) of greater than average intelligence.
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Well, my thread started by specifying modern music, i.e. a recently created art form, as opposed to classical or jazz which are more traditional genres.
Not everyone who is bright and open to rock will like prog. I have plenty of bright friends who don't understand at all why I like it.
And as for Rush, while I'm not a fan, I am thankful that Neil Peart writes lyrics that are much more intelligent than, say, Rush contemporaries like Journey or Loverboy.
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thefalafelking
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:35 |
yargh wrote:
Indirectly. As music goes, prog isn't exactly the elite in terms of complexity or technique. If prog fans are geniuses, what are jazz and classical fans... super geniuses? I think that people who are genuinely interested in music as music, and who come from backgrounds that aren't prejudiced against rock music, will probably like at least some prog. People who have genuine interests in music as such tend to be (in my experience) of greater than average intelligence.
But saying that liking prog means you're smart... I've read enough brain-dead gushing on the internet from Rush and Marillion fanboys to disprove that one many times over.
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this is absolutely true!!!
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kirklott
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:37 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
anyone have a link where i can find out my IQ???? |
Why, here's your IQ my good man:
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Cute, but predictable and off-topic.
If the thread said "Where Should I Start With Genesis?" I suppose you'd say the Bible!
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"Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin
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stonebeard
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:37 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
anyone have a link where i can find out my IQ???? |
Why, here's your IQ my good man:
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You didn't think I expected a neo-prog related post from the likes of you? Tsk, Tsk...
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Oh I knew that you would know that I would know to put a neo-prog related post in response to your post about you wanting to know what your IQ was.
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Well...I can only answer that with a....
(insert embarassing neil morse "church" phote here)
....erm....I didn't really feel like trudging through 1000 pages of Mariah Carey to find it.
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:39 |
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
anyone have a link where i can find out my IQ???? |
Why, here's your IQ my good man:
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You didn't think I expected a neo-prog related post from the likes of you? Tsk, Tsk...
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Oh I knew that you would know that I would know to put a neo-prog related post in response to your post about you wanting to know what your IQ was.
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Well...I can only answer that with a....
(insert embarassing neil morse "church" phote here)
....erm....I didn't really feel like trudging through 1000 pages of Mariah Carey to find it.
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I hope you don't mean
P.S. Sorry to those who are confused, but this is a common occurence among us.
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stonebeard
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:43 |
That's the one, Cyggie!
And don't worry. This time, I saved it into a word document so I can bring it up whenever I like!
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ulver982
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 21:44 |
Nah, I'm retarded.
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