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Points: 51 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2005 at 16:20

Originally posted by lunaticviolist lunaticviolist wrote:

Providence was recorded in the studio (in Providence as a matter of fact).

I have quite a bit of King Crimson, and love it all, but I'll admit to not knowing much about them. One of my favorite tracks is "Asbury Park" from USA, and I see in the liner notes that it was recorded in Asbury Park, NJ. From these two examples, I'm guessing that it was a "thing" they did, with the free-form improvs simply named for wherever they were recorded? That's pretty cool.
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Points: 7341 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2005 at 18:25
Please don't shoot me, but I have yet to listen to the album Red! I really want it, but I just havn't gotten to buying it yet.
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Points: 6336 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2005 at 21:08
As much as I looooooooooove Crimson (my fav band), red inst one of my favorites...I think it would be if One more red nightmare wouldnt have that sax solo...I dont really like them
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Points: 167 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2005 at 21:35

It took me many years to get into what I still feels is a severely overated album... Lark's Toungue  is the my all time favorite and definitive Crimson album....

 

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Points: 137 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2005 at 05:45

Great album, but a bit too straightforward to me. Especially second and third track, which are very similar in structure and not very much inventive. But Starless is a true classic .

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Points: 1881 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2005 at 06:50
Originally posted by lunaticviolist lunaticviolist wrote:

It's my favorite Crimso album.  There's not a weak track.

Originally posted by Orbert Orbert wrote:

Someone said there's a live track on Red; I'm assuming they meant "Providence", but I always thought "Providence" was live in the studio, which isn't quite the same as live before an audience.

Providence was recorded in the studio (in Providence as a matter of fact).



I'm listening to the Great Deceiver, the 4CD live box set and on CD1, a concert in Providence 30 June 1974, there is the track "Providence" that seems to be a longer version of what appears on Red, its almost note for note except I suspect some of David Cross' violin has been removed or else faded down in the "Red" mix, and maybe some mellotron was added. I haven't read the comprehensive booklet with the set that may tell me this - anyone know?

Crimson did similar on "Starless and Bible Black" where songs from an Amsterdam concert were then overdubbed in the studio. The original (and IMHO better) versions appear on "The Night Watch".

I think Crimson live was a different, better beast than the studio version. My favourite Crimson studio album remains Larks Tongues but the production is I think poor, whereas Red manages better to capture some of the energy they showed on stage.

I did see Crimson live in their 1981 "Discipline" incarnation, but sadly was too young for the Larks Tongues - Red period.
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Points: 4 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 07:49
Hi all

did you ever listen to the "Red" version of NIACIN on Time Crunch. Better than KC

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