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    Posted: November 05 2005 at 16:18

"lonesome crow" is a great prog album. Agree?
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are the scorpions prog too now?
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Actually I was playing the album 'Fly To The Rainbow' today, and from what I've heard from 'Lonesome Crow', these early albums are a very different beast from the commercial metal fare they did later, with some awesome, almost psychedelic atmospheres. Indeed, to me the track 'Fly To The Rainbow' seems to predict Iron Maiden's work, even if it's less focussed.

I'd not include the band here personally, as for the most part they are a great heavy metal band, though there were definitely elements of prog in their early work. Then again, you'd hear the influence of prog in most 70s artists to be honest...
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Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

are the scorpions prog too now?
NO, but the first album is
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Originally posted by watch_maker watch_maker wrote:

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

are the scorpions prog too now?
NO, but the first album is

ah cool never heard that one

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Especially the title track to Lonesome Crow is pure progressive rock. And a true 13 minute masterpiece in my opinion.
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MUST LISTEN TO THAT
THERE`S TO MUCH MUSIC AND SO LITTLE TIME TO LISTEN TO IT

VIVA LA ARGENTINA PROGRESIVA!!!!!
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All their albums with Uli Jon Roth are Prog Related - to a small degree, and IMO not enough to include them. In a way the albums are similar to Wishbone Ash ... with a rougher, more metal sound.
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José Cid has only one Prog album between an overwhelming bad pop catalog, and he's in since almost the beggining of the Archives...
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Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

José Cid has only one Prog album between an overwhelming bad pop catalog, and he's in since almost the beggining of the Archives...

In a way , you´re right...

Here i am , rock you like a hurricane !!

I dont think Scorpions could be in the archives


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lonesome crow is ok but all the other albums are really 
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In the 1970s, in fact up to and including "Lovedrive", they were a very good metal outfit.Yes Lonesome Crow and Fly To The Rainbow hint at psychedelia but not enough to get them a place here.
Taken By Force,In Trance,Virgin Killer all brilliant Hard Rock albums and highly recomended to lovers of 70s Heavy Rock and Tokyo Tapes is a classic live album too.
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^ That's a nice summary of their early phase, I agree 100%. Lovedrive is a fascinating album ... Roth had already left the band, but IMO the spirit was still there. From Animal Magnetism onward they established their most popular and successful style, which was then watered down a lot from Savage Amusement and onward.
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You guys probably don't this but the Scorpions are the most influential rock band of all in Malaysia ... from the mid 80s until very recently, there were between 50-100 bands comprising 4 or 5 leather-clad long haired guys with a biker image, but a surprising penchant for mournful ballads ...

Absolutely frightening ... they are huge here! ... my friend had the misfortune (he deserved it I guess) to be caught doing a Nazi impression with Klaus Meine standing right behind him!

I have heard that the first two albums were in a different style ... just like UFO's first two were ...
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Yeah 'Fly To The Rainbow' at least is very different to their later work; indeed, only the heavy rocker 'Speedy's Coming' (with some hilariously bad lyrics) hints at their later sound. Most of it reflects a deep debt to psychedelic rock of the late 60s; even Deep Purple and Uriah Heep on some tracks on it. I don't think they should be here at all, but there's no doubting they were a great band.
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Points: 21206 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2005 at 15:39

Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

Yeah 'Fly To The Rainbow' at least is very different to their later work; indeed, only the heavy rocker 'Speedy's Coming' (with some hilariously bad lyrics) hints at their later sound. Most of it reflects a deep debt to psychedelic rock of the late 60s; even Deep Purple and Uriah Heep on some tracks on it. I don't think they should be here at all, but there's no doubting they were a great band.

It was mostly due to Uli Jon Roth - he was heavily influenced by Jimi Hendrix and the hippie movement, and on Taken By Force you can even hear some (very remote) Krautrock references. But with his departure they turned away from psychedelic towards a more stringent metal sound, with can be heard in its purest form on their 1981 album "Blackout".
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Points: 891 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2005 at 21:52

i saw the scorpions and whitesnake in concert.

 

 

ohh yeah i rocked with the mullets all night.
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