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    Posted: May 03 2005 at 12:56

Just heard about this Japanese band 'Mono' as they are coming to play UK in May.  I promptly downloaded some of their new album, and its pretty amazing stuff - brooding, atmospheric, instrumental post-rock, complete with string sections, quiet/loud bits, and plenty of sampled weirdness/space loops.     

Fans of GYBE, Mogwai should try it out - whilst it doesn't blaze a trail in terms originality, there are some amazing moments comparable with the best moments of SKinny Fists and Young Team.   

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2005 at 14:10
Heard them once and was quite impressed. VERY raw kind of music, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2005 at 01:16
They don't sound that much like GYBE, great band though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2005 at 02:29
Has anyone heard of the Japanese group Malice Mizer?  A friend of mine gave me some of their CDs.  Pretty good stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2005 at 22:52

Malice Mizer is amazing. If you like Japanese Prog, here's a list of my favorite Japanese prog bands:

Malice Mizer: Symphonic Prog. They mix rock with baroque classical music. Currently not making any more music. FAVORITE SONG: SYUNIKISS

Moi dix Mois: Symphonic Prog. Formed by the former guitarist of Malice Mizer, so they sound exactly the same. FAVORITE SONG: N/A

Gackt: Art Rock. Former lead singer of Malice Mizer. It's a combo of pop and art rock. Most prog albums are Moon, Mars, and Crescent, in that order. Rebirth is not very progressive oriented. He has an extremely wide vocal range. Think Freddy Mercury. FAVORITE SONG: LUNA

X Japan: Prog Metal. Probably not prog, but they sound prog-esque. They sound like a combo of Dream Theater and Scorpions. The first really successful Japanese band. FAVORITE SONG: SILENT JEALOUSY or KURENAI

L'Arc~en~Ciel: Art Rock. They sound kind of like Rush in the 90s, but more interesting because their songs are all different. Lead singer has a wide vocal range. He sounds a bit annoying when he sings high, but his middle and lower octaves are incredible. Their older music has more of an 80s feel (think Journey), but their newer stuff has better vocals because the lead singer sings deeper now. FAVORITE SONG: READY STEADY GO

Dir en Grey: Experimental. For fans of weird music. Their songs range from death metal screaming to dark prog melodies similar to Tool and Pink Floyd melded together. Their lead singer is not too good, but he writes all the lyrics, which mostly tell some kind of dark story. FAVORITE SONG: CAGE

Siam Shade: Art Rock. My favorite Japanese band. They sound like Rush's Moving Pictures or Permanent Waves melded with Van Halen. Their lead singer doesn't have a very wide range, but his tone is good. He reminds me a bit of Geddy Lee from the 80s. FAVORITE SONG: DREAMS

The Black Mages: Instrumental Prog Metal. They sound like Yes on steroids. They are composed of a bassist, a drummer, two guitarists, a keyboarder, and a hammond organist. The hammond player, Nobuo Uematsu, writes all the music, and he also composes film and game scores (like Trevor Rabin). FAVORITE SONG: FORCE YOUR WAY

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2005 at 23:19
Originally posted by analogkid529 analogkid529 wrote:

Malice Mizer is amazing. If you like Japanese Prog, here's a list of my favorite Japanese prog bands:

Malice Mizer: Symphonic Prog. They mix rock with baroque classical music. Currently not making any more music. FAVORITE SONG: SYUNIKISS

Moi dix Mois: Symphonic Prog. Formed by the former guitarist of Malice Mizer, so they sound exactly the same. FAVORITE SONG: N/A

Gackt: Art Rock. Former lead singer of Malice Mizer. It's a combo of pop and art rock. Most prog albums are Moon, Mars, and Crescent, in that order. Rebirth is not very progressive oriented. He has an extremely wide vocal range. Think Freddy Mercury. FAVORITE SONG: LUNA

X Japan: Prog Metal. Probably not prog, but they sound prog-esque. They sound like a combo of Dream Theater and Scorpions. The first really successful Japanese band. FAVORITE SONG: SILENT JEALOUSY or KURENAI

L'Arc~en~Ciel: Art Rock. They sound kind of like Rush in the 90s, but more interesting because their songs are all different. Lead singer has a wide vocal range. He sounds a bit annoying when he sings high, but his middle and lower octaves are incredible. Their older music has more of an 80s feel (think Journey), but their newer stuff has better vocals because the lead singer sings deeper now. FAVORITE SONG: READY STEADY GO

Dir en Grey: Experimental. For fans of weird music. Their songs range from death metal screaming to dark prog melodies similar to Tool and Pink Floyd melded together. Their lead singer is not too good, but he writes all the lyrics, which mostly tell some kind of dark story. FAVORITE SONG: CAGE

Siam Shade: Art Rock. My favorite Japanese band. They sound like Rush's Moving Pictures or Permanent Waves melded with Van Halen. Their lead singer doesn't have a very wide range, but his tone is good. He reminds me a bit of Geddy Lee from the 80s. FAVORITE SONG: DREAMS

The Black Mages: Instrumental Prog Metal. They sound like Yes on steroids. They are composed of a bassist, a drummer, two guitarists, a keyboarder, and a hammond organist. The hammond player, Nobuo Uematsu, writes all the music, and he also composes film and game scores (like Trevor Rabin). FAVORITE SONG: FORCE YOUR WAY



The Black Mages is actually a video game music band, they do rock arrange from Square Enix RPG s music, just like the Konami Kukeiha Club and Falcom JDK Band and many other video game music bands. Since you are at it, the new Final Fantasy 7: Advent Children has lots of music like "The Black Mages," also from a video game.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2005 at 23:24
READY STEADY GO from L'Arc~En~Ciel was used as the opening of anime called Full Metal Alchemist (Hagane no Renkinjutsushi) and they are very popular (maybe too much to be considered "prog"). 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2005 at 04:36
I see Mono as a lazy and uninspired band.
This is repetitive music, but without any interest : you got the repetitive part but there is not the moving part that is oscillating around the repetitive part.
One riff = one song. Always the same riff over and over again. They just activate their effect-pedals one after one to change the sound a bit.
Their last album (walking cloud...) doesn't need more than 2 listening to be well known from start to end.
"Under the pipal tree" is very monolithic, and it's not a compliment. The same thing on the whole disc.
On "One step more and you die", the track "Com(?)" would like to be like... "Mogwai Fear Satan" or another good epic work but sadly... this is just repeating and repeating : one riff for 15 minutes.
Did I say that Mono was very repetitive ? Oh yes, and really not in a good manner.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2005 at 05:13

Originally posted by d.o.k d.o.k wrote:

I see Mono as a lazy and uninspired band.
This is repetitive music, but without any interest : you got the repetitive part but there is not the moving part that is oscillating around the repetitive part.
One riff = one song. Always the same riff over and over again. They just activate their effect-pedals one after one to change the sound a bit.
Their last album (walking cloud...) doesn't need more than 2 listening to be well known from start to end.
"Under the pipal tree" is very monolithic, and it's not a compliment. The same thing on the whole disc.
On "One step more and you die", the track "Com(?)" would like to be like... "Mogwai Fear Satan" or another good epic work but sadly... this is just repeating and repeating : one riff for 15 minutes.
Did I say that Mono was very repetitive ? Oh yes, and really not in a good manner.

Your post is also kind of repetitive.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2005 at 08:48
Originally posted by d.o.k d.o.k wrote:

I see Mono as a lazy and uninspired band.
This is repetitive music, but without any interest : you got the
repetitive part but there is not the moving part that is oscillating
around the repetitive part.
One riff = one song. Always the same riff over and over again. They
just activate their effect-pedals one after one to change the sound a
bit.
Their last album (walking cloud...) doesn't need more than 2 listening to be well known from start to end.
"Under the pipal tree" is very monolithic, and it's not a compliment. The same thing on the whole disc.
On "One step more and you die", the track "Com(?)" would like to be
like... "Mogwai Fear Satan" or another good epic work but sadly... this
is just repeating and repeating : one riff for 15 minutes.
Did I say that Mono was very repetitive ? Oh yes, and really not in a good manner.

That's the general view that seems to run around - a bit like GYBE but less inspired. It hasn't really encouraged me to give them a listen, so I haven't
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2005 at 09:21
@ MikeEnRegalia : You are right ! This is a way to emphasize the repetitive character of this band.
On a tree, I see Mono at the end of a branch, a branch that will never have children. You cannot get juice from an orange that has already been squeezed. Perhaps Mogwai aren't far from this state but I still enjoy listening to them, but what will they realease now ?

On the other side Tarentel is a amazing band with no similar albums. Or, Magyar Posse, without changing the post-rock style, brings a symphonic touch (thanks to the piano surely) that is a bit refreshing.

And Gy!be, oh, they're just like a cathedral for me. If only they could record and realease Albanian and Gamelan : two amazing works.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2005 at 11:51
Yeah, I dont think Mono is a very original band, as they sound a great deal like Mogwai, but their album "One Step More and You Die" is still an amazing effort.  They make great, moving post-rock compositions.  However, I agree with d.o.k that they arent really blazing any paths, but I still think they rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2005 at 12:32

Mono is good, but not enough to be compared to GYBE or my fav. Sigur Ròs.

Tarentel and Magyar Posse, also great bands (currently listenning to Magyar Posse)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2005 at 04:13
IMHO if we had to elect a japanese Gybe, it would surely be "Acid Mother Temple", not "Mono".
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