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Points: 376 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2005 at 10:09
Hamburger is their best IMO with the tightest material and most symphonic sound they ever achieved, although it does have flaws.

Akkerman seems to be throwing one of his famous 'moodies' on this album and contributes his guitar parts in an almost casual fashion (it's a testament to his ability that they still sound so good).

And as Moribund says Colin Allen is a more basic drummer than the superb Pierre van der Linden. Still, the brilliance of the title track, Birth and La Cathedrale de Strasbourg more than compensate for any faults.
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Points: 934 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2005 at 10:18
Great album.  Ivan, I'm glad you mentioned the DVD "Masters from the Vaults."  I've been trying to figure out a good DVD to buy and have been putting this one off for about two years.  I'm going to pick it up.
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Points: 210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2005 at 11:04

Originally posted by Drachen Theaker Drachen Theaker wrote:


Akkerman seems to be throwing one of his famous 'moodies' on this album and contributes his guitar parts in an almost casual fashion (it's a testament to his ability that they still sound so good).

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 yes, well put (certainly on the title track). A close listen to Ship of Memories shows how far this can go. He seems totally involved and a part of the band on Moving Waves. Maybe this is what irks me most.
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Points: 376 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2005 at 11:36
Originally posted by Moribund Moribund wrote:

 yes, well put (certainly on the title track). A close listen to Ship of Memories shows how far this can go. He seems totally involved and a part of the band on Moving Waves. Maybe this is what irks me most.



Another example of an Akkerman "moodie" seems to be on the version of Tommy on the Masters from the Vaults DVD. He plays this in a far more subdued (and in my opinion boring) fashion than the Moving Waves version.

It's almost like he's saying "Don't expect any of my trademark guitar pyrotechnics cos I don't feel like it!"

Apart from this though, I agree with Ivan that it's a great DVD that every Focus fan has to own. It's probably the most played music DVD in my collection.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

HC is easily their best album , but I find Focus 3 a good contender.

I find that Moving Waves is way over-rated!

I agree.

Focus III and Hamburger concerto are awesome
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Points: 10616 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2005 at 12:23
Originally posted by pero pero wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

HC is easily their best album , but I find Focus 3 a good contender.

I find that Moving Waves is way over-rated!

I agree.

Focus III and Hamburger concerto are awesome

I don't think Moving Waves is overrated. It has a lot of great melodies, harmonies and riffs. It's just that the sound on Hamburger Concerto is much improved if you compare it to MW. Also they have mastered the art of building a major scale epic on HC.
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2005 at 15:32
I never really heard much of Focus' material and picked up Hamburger Concerto a few days ago because of the praise for it I read in this thread.An excellent album


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