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Points: 12813 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2005 at 06:56

Originally posted by beterdedthnred4 beterdedthnred4 wrote:

At the risk of throwing this thread off-topic, I love Methany's American Garage album, and any prog fans who love jazzy bands like Hatfield and the North and traditional fusion should seek this album out.

I agree, American Garage is a good point to start with Metheny (in fact that's where I started having heard the album played over the main speakers of a good record shop around 1980). However, to demonstrate that we trying to compare chalk and cheese in this thread, check out Metheny's Rarum Selected Recordings for the  range of the man's playing facility.

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Points: 545 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 19:27
Originally posted by kirklott kirklott wrote:

Originally posted by walrus walrus wrote:

 I really think that Pat Metheny is better guitarrist than Steve Howe....

are you agree or disagree??*

(*) not for fans , only for real listeners..

No chance. New age noodler (Matheny) vs. timeless, world-class, genre-defying artiste par excellence (Howe)

I agree with kirklott Steve howe is of a much higher standard.
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Points: 1881 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 20:58
maybe he is but...so what? He hasn't contributed to classics like CTTE and GOD. Metheny is a first class noodler but after a while my ears tire of him.
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Points: 19535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 21:58

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I think that a lot of guitarists are "better than Howe", if you compare the complexity of the music that they played. But how do we know if Howe couldn't have played that stuff if he had wanted to? I think he's a good guitarist ... and the question "is X better than Y" can only be answered individually anyway.

Good answer Mike, but you have pointed my great problem with most Prog Metal fans, they believe in a simple equation:

Complexity = Greatness

Sorry, but this is absurd, skills have absolutely no relation with the quality of the musician. I doubt any living guitar player is in the level of Paco de Lucia, but I know a lot of posers from many genres that play more complex pieces of crap.

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Points: 773 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2005 at 07:48
I personnally think that Pat Metheny and Steve Howe are SO different that it is pointless to discuss who is better. By the awy, if you want a decent jazz guitar player, not a muzak jazz player as Metheny, check out for Django Reinhardt, Charlie Christian, Wes Montgomery and Joe Pass. If you want a better contemporary jazz guitarist, John Scofield and John McLaughlin are far better than Metheny. Pat Metheny is very skilled, very talented as a player - but his music is not as good as it could be, he lacks feeling.
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Points: 240 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2005 at 22:24
Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Yep. Very different genre though. Odd post, this...
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Points: 4828 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2005 at 07:19
I think that Ralph Towner is better than Metheny or Howe!
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