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Points: 21138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 16:43

I've added thirty more bands ... have a look at them and suggest categorisations ... or any other information on the bands, if you know them.

Thanks!

http://uneasy-listening.com/elements/apps/mreviews/https/Pro gMetal.html



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I'm still trouble with the "Symphonic Prog Metal" section, some of those bands don't have a single Neo section in them Ie Zero Hour and Pain Of Salvation, is it possible to split them into three subgenres?
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Points: 21138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 16:50

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

I'm still trouble with the "Symphonic Prog Metal" section, some of those bands don't have a single Neo section in them Ie Zero Hour and Pain Of Salvation, is it possible to split them into three subgenres?

You mean Neo, Neo/Symphonic, Symphonic?
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Points: 16435 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 16:51
^ Yeah. I agree with that.
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I'm glad that it's recognised that Prog Metal is not even really a sub-genre of Prog Rock, as I've had a really hard time trying to get my head around where it fits in.

Sorry, but 23 pages on this is heavy going, when it seems that it can be summarised thus:

I think that Prog Metal should have a few token representations on Prog Archives, but really should occupy it's own site: Prog Metal Archives, maybe?

That's not being rude to Prog Metal, it's simply acknowledging that its relation to Prog Rock is not particularly close - tenuous at best - which is becoming increasingly apparent as I explore the genre.

The fact that it seems to require so much sub-classification underlines the opinion I've reached to date - although I'm always open to fresh evidence.

I hope that seems fair.
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Points: 21138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 17:01
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

I'm still trouble with the "Symphonic Prog Metal" section, some of those bands don't have a single Neo section in them Ie Zero Hour and Pain Of Salvation, is it possible to split them into three subgenres?

You mean Neo, Neo/Symphonic, Symphonic?

Yes we could try that ... it would be more difficult, but it can help to determine the criteria.
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Points: 21138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 17:03
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I'm glad that it's recognised that Prog Metal is not even really a sub-genre of Prog Rock, as I've had a really hard time trying to get my head around where it fits in.

Sorry, but 23 pages on this is heavy going, when it seems that it can be summarised thus:

I think that Prog Metal should have a few token representations on Prog Archives, but really should occupy it's own site: Prog Metal Archives, maybe?

That's not being rude to Prog Metal, it's simply acknowledging that its relation to Prog Rock is not particularly close - tenuous at best - which is becoming increasingly apparent as I explore the genre.

The fact that it seems to require so much sub-classification underlines the opinion I've reached to date - although I'm always open to fresh evidence.

I hope that seems fair.

I think you'll find that which I have called Symphonic Prog Metal and Experimental Prog Metal more interesting. I'm really curious about your feedback!
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Add "Behold…The Arctopus" to the Extreme Section pls.
They are a trio from New York and they make extremly fast math-prog-metal.


http://www.beholdthearctopus.com/

Under "listen", as you probably know^^

There's a video too, WATCH IT!

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  • Enslaved (EXTREME)
  • Lake of Tears  (DOOM / GOTHIC)

 
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Enslaved is no way at all Progressive, I'll boycott them, if they get on!
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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Enslaved is no way at all Progressive, I'll boycott them, if they get on!
 you should go take a look and see who else is there .
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Points: 21138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 17:19

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Enslaved is no way at all Progressive, I'll boycott them, if they get on!

You didn't read the fine print ... I'm currently adding all sorts of bands that are somewhat progressive. Don't worry, nothing gets added to the archives just because it's in my lists.



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Points: 1063 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 17:26

IMO ENSLAVED are progressive at least  based on their newst album "ISA"



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Points: 16435 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 17:28

Strapping Young Lad
Cradle of Filth
Atheist
Dillinger Escape Plan

And almost all of the Extreme "Prog" Metal are not Prog at all.


 
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Points: 1063 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 17:31
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Strapping Young Lad
Cradle of Filth
Atheist
Dillinger Escape Plan

And almost all of the Extreme "Prog" Metal are not Prog at all.


 

, I know.. .KOL but which ones "ARE" Prog .
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Points: 16435 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 17:32
Out of that list, Watchtower and Meshuggah are definitely Prog.
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Points: 21138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 17:33
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Strapping Young Lad
Cradle of Filth
Atheist
Dillinger Escape Plan

And almost all of the Extreme "Prog" Metal are not Prog at all.


 

Well, Atheist and DEP are already here ...
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Points: 16435 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 17:35
Atheist maybe Jazz Death Metal, but definitely not Prog Death Metal
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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2005 at 17:39

I think if any donkey ever sings for a band- it automatically makes them Prog Metal......
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