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marktheshark
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Philrod
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Posted: September 26 2005 at 00:39 |
Actually, I don't drink
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Phil
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Posted: September 27 2005 at 09:47 |
Very American list with Guinness & Newcastle thrown in for good
measure. From what I've seen we in UK have probably got the best choice
- we can buy both the American Bud (so-so) and "proper" Budweiser
(Budvar) from Czech Republic, which gets my vote closely followed by
Pilsner Urquell (which means original pilsner - as indeed it is).
Honourable mentions in no particular order to Cobra (ideal with curry),
Hoegarden, Tiger, Nastro Azzurro. Chimay and Duvel trappist ales. And
then there's several Weissbeer. Of the US beers on the above list, I
really rate Samuel Adams. Cheers! Hic.........
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Posted: September 27 2005 at 10:25 |
This thread advocates hard drug use! i'm shocked!
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 27 2005 at 10:27 |
Hemp beer
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marktheshark
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: October 24 2005 at 11:49 |
I am Dutch but not really proud on the worldwide very good selling Heineken, it has a rather average taste. I prefer the Belgian beers, especially Trappist (brewed in monasteries) like Westmalle and Rochefort. Other great Belgian beers are Carolus D'Or, La Chouffe, Barbar and Kwak. Outside Belgium I like Guiness, Kilkenny, Dutch Gerardus blond and Korenwolf white beer. By the way, beer and progrock is a great combination!
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oliverstoned
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 08:52 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
I am Dutch but not really proud on the worldwide very good selling Heineken, it has a rather average taste. I prefer the Belgian beers, especially Trappist (brewed in monasteries) like Westmalle and Rochefort. Other great Belgian beers are Carolus D'Or, La Chouffe, Barbar and Kwak. Outside Belgium I like Guiness, Kilkenny, Dutch Gerardus blond and Korenwolf white beer. By the way, beer and progrock is a great combination! |
Good taste.
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ColonelClaypool
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 09:35 |
Guinness from that list. Murphy's Stout is another favourite of mine.
Not too fond of Lagers, my favourite would be Tuborg I guess.
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With magic, you can turn a frog into a prince.
With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 09:36 |
As the only Belgian on this forum , I will not touch the poll (even Stella , the only Belgian beer is made for foreigners and exportation), BUT I will say that yes!!!!
We Do Make The Best Beers In The World!!!!
And I would like to thank my Dutch Friends for acnowledging this, but their beer is not bad also! Too bad we have to order two of them to get a normal-sized beer, though!
But I'd rather think of Wine and prog as a good combination > beers are good for other style of rock!
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 10:01 |
Sean Trane wrote:
As the only Belgian on this forum , I will not touch the poll (even Stella , the only Belgian beer is made for foreigners and exportation), BUT I will say that yes!!!!
We Do Make The Best Beers In The World!!!!
And I would like to thank my Dutch Friends for acnowledging this, but their beer is not bad also! ... |
That's very nice of you to say, but you MAY be honest . Okay, just joking, but I'm wondering: what Dutch beer do you like?
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oliverstoned
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 10:09 |
Sean Trane wrote:
As the only Belgian on this forum , I will not touch the poll (even Stella , the only Belgian beer is made for foreigners and exportation), BUT I will say that yes!!!!
We Do Make The Best Beers In The World!!!!
And I would like to thank my Dutch Friends for acnowledging this, but their beer is not bad also! Too bad we have to order two of them to get a normal-sized beer, though!
But I'd rather think of Wine and prog as a good combination > beers are good for other style of rock! |
TRUE, belgian beers are the best IMO
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 10:23 |
No, I agree with Erik. Beer goes very well with prog. And some beers really reflect the different facets of prog.
Renaissance is like a good, mild white Hoegaarden or Corsendonk (white beer (= wheat beer)). Sweet and light.
Genesis is like a De Koninck, a bit more tastier and challenging
The Cardiacs are like Kriek Lambic (cherry beer, from "krieken" - cherries), delicious, joyful, but is it really beer?
Gentle Giant is like a good triple trappist, +/- 10% alcohol (Westmalle or Chimay)
Henry Cow is like Eku Kulminator - the strongest possible beer, but a bit over the edge for me.
The Dutch Grolsch is like... the first Asia album, I suppose. Tasty but direct.
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 10:25 |
No, really the best combination is Weed and prog.
Alcohol lowers the level of counsciousness.
Wine has a more subbtle effect than beer, and Champagne has the more subtle, the best high among wines.(if not overdose).
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Sean Trane
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 10:46 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
As the only Belgian on this forum , I will not touch the poll (even Stella , the only Belgian beer is made for foreigners and exportation), BUT I will say that yes!!!!
We Do Make The Best Beers In The World!!!!
And I would like to thank my Dutch Friends for acnowledging this, but their beer is not bad also! ... |
That's very nice of you to say, but you MAY be honest . Okay, just joking, but I'm wondering: what Dutch beer do you like?
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Well to be honest , you put me on a spot, here!
I find Grolsch , Gulpener and Amstel well worthy of your average Maes Pils !
In general terms , for Pilsener beers I like Jupiler & Primus but clearly the best was Wiels , but Interbrew bought it to destroy it!
Trappist: Chimay Blue and Red are excellent! I don't appreciate Westmalle (the double is daft and the tripel is way too bitter for my taste , but it is considered the purest trappist), but Achel both are excellent. Orval is an acquired taste (Gentle Giant), Rochefort 6 & 8 are both excellent but the 10 is too caramel for me, but the most intriguing is Westvleeteren (not too far away from where you live) : you will not find it at stores, they only sell it at their door and only on wednesdays afternoon if they brewed any and have them in stock and can only take one case at a time! The Blue and Yellow caps are wonderfull, the Green (blond ) is less so, and I have never seen or tasted the Red cap - I think they made a myth out of it or keep it to themselves!You can find an acetate of those by tasting the St Bernardus (ex-St Sixtus) beers
BTW:Dutch Koenigshoeven abbey has regained the right to Trappist beers etiquette, last month and so the La Trappe beers are now again Trappist beers, but I find them not quite that good!
So out of seven trappist beers , six are Belgians (3 Flemish and 3 Walloons, would you guess) and one is Dutch!
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 10:49 |
Chimay has good taste but too strong!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 10:55 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Chimay has good taste but too strong! |
The red label tastes almost the same as the blue label but has two degrees less!
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 12:48 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
As the only Belgian on this forum , I will not touch the poll (even Stella , the only Belgian beer is made for foreigners and exportation), BUT I will say that yes!!!!
We Do Make The Best Beers In The World!!!!
And I would like to thank my Dutch Friends for acnowledging this, but their beer is not bad also! ... |
That's very nice of you to say, but you MAY be honest . Okay, just joking, but I'm wondering: what Dutch beer do you like?
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Well to be honest , you put me on a spot, here!
I find Grolsch , Gulpener and Amstel well worthy of your average Maes Pils !
In general terms , for Pilsener beers I like Jupiler & Primus but clearly the best was Wiels , but Interbrew bought it to destroy it!
Trappist: Chimay Blue and Red are excellent! I don't appreciate Westmalle (the double is daft and the tripel is way too bitter for my taste , but it is considered the purest trappist), but Achel both are excellent. Orval is an acquired taste (Gentle Giant), Rochefort 6 & 8 are both excellent but the 10 is too caramel for me, but the most intriguing is Westvleeteren (not too far away from where you live) : you will not find it at stores, they only sell it at their door and only on wednesdays afternoon if they brewed any and have them in stock and can only take one case at a time! The Blue and Yellow caps are wonderfull, the Green (blond ) is less so, and I have never seen or tasted the Red cap - I think they made a myth out of it or keep it to themselves!You can find an acetate of those by tasting the St Bernardus (ex-St Sixtus) beers
BTW:Dutch Koenigshoeven abbey has regained the right to Trappist beers etiquette, last month and so the La Trappe beers are now again Trappist beers, but I find them not quite that good!
So out of seven trappist beers , six are Belgians (3 Flemish and 3 Walloons, would you guess) and one is Dutch!
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Impressive list! I've come past Westvleeteren a few times: the village is on our route to the North Sea Beach. I knew they had Trappist beer, never tried it though. Thanks for the information, it sounds really good! Guess I'll make a visit Westvleeteren on a wednesday afternoon.
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 12:54 |
Sean Trane wrote:
oliverstoned wrote:
Chimay has good taste but too strong! |
The red label tastes almost the same as the blue label but has two degrees less! |
i'll try
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 13:31 |
BEER UNITES .. !!!
By the way, once I visited the Rochefort monastery where the monks brew my famous Rochefort 10. I noticed that on the entrance monks were carrying trays with Trappist beer to a truck and on the other site of the building monks were praying in the garden....you can say that opposites met over there, God and money!
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