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ANDREW
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Topic: who canged the music world more Posted: January 25 2006 at 15:54 |
Certif1ed wrote:
Elvis brought Rock and Roll to millions. He wasn't the first and didn't write his own stuff - but that's not what Pop music is about to this day.
The Beatles weren't the first to play Beat music, or use any of the techniques that they did - but they raised the bar several fold and were/are extraordinarily influential.
However, in terms of bringing something entirely new to the world of music and changing it forever, they didn't and couldn't do as much as Elvis;
Elvis took charisma to a new level - his talent lay in "being the King of Rock'n'Roll", not in any particular musical skill, but the sound his band and voice made combined with the huge publicity machine that created itself around him - not least because of the way he moved and made the girls scream - ensured that no-one would ever have the same impact on the world of music.
Style over substance - that's the major change that Elvis brought. And that's what pop "stars" do to this day.
The Beatles (thanks to George Martin) combined the two, but Elvis had already blazed the trail for them.
So Elvis changed it more, IMO.
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Posted: January 25 2006 at 15:28 |
No doubt for me, The Beatles.
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 18:08 |
I agree with Certif1ed that the Elvis changed the way the public look at Pop music more but the Beatles had a considerably greater effect on the music that can be seen to this day so in a way their equel because they effected 2 different things in music.
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 08:11 |
Elvis brought Rock and Roll to millions. He wasn't the first and didn't write his own stuff - but that's not what Pop music is about to this day.
The Beatles weren't the first to play Beat music, or use any of the techniques that they did - but they raised the bar several fold and were/are extraordinarily influential.
However, in terms of bringing something entirely new to the world of music and changing it forever, they didn't and couldn't do as much as Elvis;
Elvis took charisma to a new level - his talent lay in "being the King of Rock'n'Roll", not in any particular musical skill, but the sound his band and voice made combined with the huge publicity machine that created itself around him - not least because of the way he moved and made the girls scream - ensured that no-one would ever have the same impact on the world of music.
Style over substance - that's the major change that Elvis brought. And that's what pop "stars" do to this day.
The Beatles (thanks to George Martin) combined the two, but Elvis had already blazed the trail for them.
So Elvis changed it more, IMO.
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 07:43 |
sleeper wrote:
I chose the Beatles hear but in a free choice i would have chosen The Comets as they started Rock 'n' Roll and were would we be without them! |
Hmm, I'm not sure The Comets actually started rock'n'roll. Although Rock Around The Clock was probably the first great rock'n'roll song, it's roots were around before that.
I've voted for The Beatles for a far greater musical influence than Presley. Although he was a great influence on The Beatles, he wasn't the only one (Holly was a bigger influence on McCartney). Presley was a singer and not really a musician - how many bands have based their musical styles on his?
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 07:33 |
floydaholic wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Syzygy wrote:
Elvis - John Lennon always acknowledged the impact
that hearing Elvis had on him, so no Elvis = no Beatles. |
Finally..someone knows what the hell I am talking about.
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No Beatles=Boundaries still existing in rock and roll
The Beatles opened up and made accessible the idea of incorporating
other genres into rock music and making it extremely listenable. They
tried several different types of music throughout the course of not
several albums, but just one or two. You find me any other two albums
from a single band that have had as much influence as Revolver and Sgt.
Pepper. You can't, they laid the groundwork for rock for the next 40
some years. Elvis was influential, but the one that starts the genre
doesn't always have the most important influence. |
Yup I agree with floydaholic ...
I think the most changes to the system happened because of The Beatles,
even if Elvis was very important to the bands of the 60s (including the
Beatles themselves) ... everything about their approach was
revolutionary (recording and writing their own material) ... the usage
of the studio as an instrument ... the development of the album (as
opposed to singles and EPs) ... the development of lyrical content ...
early examples of fusion ...
first is not always most important or most influential ... Thales vs Aristotle for example
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 11:31 |
I chose the Beatles hear but in a free choice i would have chosen The Comets as they started Rock 'n' Roll and were would we be without them!
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 01:02 |
The Beatles Influenced most bands in History, but guys' like Buddy Holiday and Elvis had a huge impact on the Beatles.
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Posted: October 31 2005 at 20:56 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Syzygy wrote:
Elvis - John Lennon always acknowledged the impact that hearing Elvis had on him, so no Elvis = no Beatles. |
Finally..someone knows what the hell I am talking about.
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No Beatles=Boundaries still existing in rock and roll
The Beatles opened up and made accessible the idea of incorporating other genres into rock music and making it extremely listenable. They tried several different types of music throughout the course of not several albums, but just one or two. You find me any other two albums from a single band that have had as much influence as Revolver and Sgt. Pepper. You can't, they laid the groundwork for rock for the next 40 some years. Elvis was influential, but the one that starts the genre doesn't always have the most important influence.
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Posted: October 31 2005 at 16:01 |
Beatles influenced most prog bands and other rock bands all over the world. Elvis just pissed people off!
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 08:00 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Like most I voted for Beatles , but without Elvis , the Beatles would've never happened! |
Elvis wasn't the Beatles' only influence, so if there was no Elvis,
then I think someone else would have served as the Beatles' influence
and brought them together. In any case, a lot of the things that
the Beatles did that made an impact weren't influenced by Elvis at all.
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 07:48 |
Like most I voted for Beatles , but without Elvis , the Beatles would've never happened!
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 07:27 |
Elvis was more of a superstar, he didn't even write his songs (at least not all of them). I don't think he "changed" the music world, whereas The Beatles DID change the music world, in so many ways.
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 10:11 |
So what did Elvis do?
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 09:49 |
Beatles wi'out a doubt. Elvis tends to strike most people as something of a relic nowadays, whilst the Beatles' direct and indirect influence on modern music can still be seen today.
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 08:19 |
Syzygy wrote:
Elvis - John Lennon always acknowledged the impact that
hearing Elvis had on him, so no Elvis = no Beatles. |
Absolutely....!
Or no Buddy Holly no Beatles
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 06:02 |
Hangedman wrote:
^ both more than kraftwerk although kraftwerk are like the beatles of electronica.
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Kraftwerk are overrated, at least their latter albums. their early albums (which, for some reason, they don't want to be republished again), are a lot better. the latter ones are too mechanical and lack soul. the last one I can really listen to is "Radio-Activity", anything after that is absolutely soulless
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