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eduardossc
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Posted: October 13 2005 at 10:03 |
Boy ¡¡. that piano and drum intro in "Clocks" is pure prog ¡¡. Yes, Coldplay must be in this site ¡¡¡
...You see ?...Please stop wondering what should be prog or not. When something is prog it sounds and feels as progressive rock, not like anything else.
For that reason we have all these Canterbury movement bands all around with their flat classic rock music making me feel I still have too much to listen to about prog. Then when I finally get them, I feel like I´ve lost time looking for them.
What is Queen doing in this site?, Queen II has a small song near the end with some little details that could belong to a standard prog album. So what?. Having Queen in this site just turns them from a great Rock pop band, into a mediocre prog band. Something worse would happen to Coldplay and many others if they were considered prog.
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rockandrail
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Posted: October 13 2005 at 08:28 |
transend wrote:
I like Coldplay, good band...but they shouldnt be here....
But then, neither should Radiohead, Opeth, voivod...etc etc...
Coldplay's use of keyboards certainly out progs Radiohead.
Oh, wait, Black sabbath and Venom, they are two that should be here also...
Death metal? Long songs? concept albums...yep Venom has em all.
Actually for that matter, so does Elton John and Chicago...
Anyone get my point yet? |
There are prog elements in Elton John's "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" and "Blue Moves". Chicago (I, II, III and half VII) is certainly as prog as Deep Purple, Queen or Black Sabbath, in a different subgenre (jazz-prog? Frontier-prog?).
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Phil
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Posted: October 13 2005 at 07:33 |
Absolutely not. But, I do think they're a great band!
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M. B. Zapelini
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Posted: October 13 2005 at 07:15 |
Coldplay is in fact a great pop band, with their catchy, mellow and simple tunes. I think they are a good choice for proggers tired of complexity...
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laplace
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Posted: October 13 2005 at 06:50 |
Face it, if you like Coldplay, SoaD, Franz Ferdinand, etc, etc, then
you like mass-marketed talentless drivel. Just accept that you're
easily pleased, and be comfortable with it, so you don't have to try
and validate it or justify your tastes.
I'm the same way, when my brain hurts from complicated music, sometimes
I sit back and enjoy a nice slice of the mass-marketed talentless
drivel known as Rammstein. I don't pretend they're a mature band..
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tardis
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 20:26 |
Yes, isn't Radiohead "alternative rock"? Though I must say they've been getting very experimental...but still, prog? Hmm...
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transend
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 19:22 |
I like Coldplay, good band...but they shouldnt be here....
But then, neither should Radiohead, Opeth, voivod...etc etc...
Coldplay's use of keyboards certainly out progs Radiohead.
Oh, wait, Black sabbath and Venom, they are two that should be here also...
Death metal? Long songs? concept albums...yep Venom has em all.
Actually for that matter, so does Elton John and Chicago...
Anyone get my point yet?
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eduardossc
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 15:53 |
felixxx wrote:
Yes why not and after them we can add Blur they are progressive to, and maybe we should add Garbage and Abba a 70s Swedish progressive disco band |
"Progressive disco band " ????....Jajajajaja. Now, THAT IS FUNNY ¡¡¡¡.
Prog fans must stop thinking what band should be added to the genre. Or one day I´ll be reading reviews on Black Sabath´s one-idea-per-song-albums in this site.
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Pr@gmatic
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 15:45 |
Coldplay should NOT be added to any prog site!!! They're a decent POP rock band, though. Yeah, I'm an honest person.
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krusty
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 15:43 |
Logos wrote:
felixxx wrote:
Yes why not and after them we can add Blur they are progressive to, and
maybe we should add Garbage and Abba a 70s Swedish progressive
disco band |
Why such strong reactions?
No one can seriously suggest Coldplay to be prog, so you don't have to panic about it.
Just enjoy the fantastic and fresh album that goes by the name of "X&Y" . |
I'm in total agreement with above statment if anyone is interested.
No? OK move on..
nothing to see here....
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eduardossc
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 14:51 |
May I then, suggest "Ashley Simpson" ?. Listen to "Pieces of me", it has a constant intensity and mood change throughout.
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R o V e R
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 17:00 |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 12:50 |
Why is everyon comparing them to Radiohead? They seem more like Travis to me, which is equally average and boring.
BTW: Does anyone of you know The Electric Soft Pared - The American Adventure? THAT's a good example of what interesting British pop can be like!
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Logos
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 12:50 |
felixxx wrote:
Yes why not and after them we can add Blur they are progressive to, and
maybe we should add Garbage and Abba a 70s Swedish progressive
disco band |
Why such strong reactions?
No one can seriously suggest Coldplay to be prog, so you don't have to panic about it.
Just enjoy the fantastic and fresh album that goes by the name of "X&Y" .
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salmacis
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 12:27 |
Not a chance...Coldplay define the term 'overrated'; in the UK at least, you can't move for someone trying to ram down your throat how 'brilliant' and 'amazing' their albums are. I can't see it at all- to me it's just dull, post Radiohead indie.
The difference between Radiohead and Coldplay is that Radiohead are anything but formulaic, and are constantly innovating new sounds- Coldplay are not. It wouldn't surprise me if somebody said 'where are Keane on this site' just because they have keyboards and 'sound like Radiohead'...
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felixxx
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 10:02 |
Yes why not and after them we can add Blur they are progressive to, and
maybe we should add Garbage and Abba a 70s Swedish progressive
disco band
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Ricochet
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 09:47 |
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Borealis
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 17:43 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Borealis wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Borealis recently said that SOAD was for 13 year old kids ... doesn't make sense to me, neither with SOAD nor Coldplay. |
That really affected you, right?
Well, actually, just to make a statement, I do not says that system of a down or coldplay (Although I do not remember saying anything about coldplay being for 13 year old kids...) is MADE for kids, but no matter what the intention is, it IS people from 13-16 year old mainly who listen to them. The music industry (MTV, etc...) probably aim these ages as a public with Soad.
I am 16, and all I hear is people listening to system of a down, so there is on megadeth, metallica and iron maiden. My sister, who is 13, says that everyone listen to system of a down (even a lot of girl, to impress boys probably) because they says it's 'cool'. I don't know what where the intention of soad, but that are the results...
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It didn't affect me at all ... and you said that, didn't you? Anyway, I can only say that the 13-15 year old kids that I know don't like SOAD. And certainly not Coldplay. But German kids are surely different ... they can't understand the lyrics, to start with.
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Well, I live in Québec, which is the french part of Canada, and no one here understand the lyrics eithier (well, english is the second language here, so some might if they check in the booklet, but anyway...). I don't know your age, but I can says that these kind of music really are popular here. Maybe the fact we are over the USA, and so awfully influenced by this country, explain the popularity...
I would also says that Coldplay isn't much popular here, by the way.
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Vive le Québec libre!...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 17:33 |
Borealis wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Borealis recently said that SOAD was for 13 year old kids ... doesn't make sense to me, neither with SOAD nor Coldplay. |
That really affected you, right?
Well, actually, just to make a statement, I do not says that system of a down or coldplay (Although I do not remember saying anything about coldplay being for 13 year old kids...) is MADE for kids, but no matter what the intention is, it IS people from 13-16 year old mainly who listen to them. The music industry (MTV, etc...) probably aim these ages as a public with Soad.
I am 16, and all I hear is people listening to system of a down, so there is on megadeth, metallica and iron maiden. My sister, who is 13, says that everyone listen to system of a down (even a lot of girl, to impress boys probably) because they says it's 'cool'. I don't know what where the intention of soad, but that are the results...
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It didn't affect me at all ... and you said that, didn't you? Anyway, I can only say that the 13-15 year old kids that I know don't like SOAD. And certainly not Coldplay. But German kids are surely different ... they can't understand the lyrics, to start with.
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Borealis
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Posted: July 22 2005 at 17:29 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
spectral wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Borealis recently said that SOAD was for 13 year old kids ... doesn't make sense to me, neither with SOAD nor Coldplay. |
How is that relevant here? Borealis has made no mention of 13 yrs old kids in regard to coldplay?
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Coldplay and SOAD have in common that they are not bands for kids. So, both comments have in common that they don't reflect the situation in the real world.
Not every band that makes video clips and is played on MTV is for kids.
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That really affected you, right?
Well, actually, just to make a statement, I do not says that system of a down or coldplay (Although I do not remember saying anything about coldplay being for 13 year old kids...) is MADE for kids, but no matter what the intention is, it IS people from 13-16 year old mainly who listen to them. The music industry (MTV, etc...) probably aim these ages as a public with Soad.
I am 16, and all I hear is people listening to system of a down, so there is on megadeth, metallica and iron maiden. My sister, who is 13, says that everyone listen to system of a down (even a lot of girl, to impress boys probably) because they says it's 'cool'. I don't know what where the intention of soad, but that are the results...
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Vive le Québec libre!...
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