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Dick Heath
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Joined: April 19 2004
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 06:23 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Last night at the Spock's Beard concert they played a nice drum solo ... two drummers, playing simultaneously and in a call-response scheme. |
Old (hi-)hat - Allman brothers did in the early 70's, Collins and Thompson did it live with Genesis, Don Ellis did it with three drummers...................... The masters Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich did it on record many times. Tony Williams Live In Japan, has a drum battle between Tony Williams and Billy Cobham. On Billy Cobham's his album The Traveler, there a drum duo with Cobham and Gary Husband.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 07:24 |
Dick Heath wrote:
Tony Williams Live In Japan, has a drum battle between Tony Williams and Billy Cobham. |
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For me in the 1980s, when 90% of the gigs I went to were heavy metal, the drum solo was always a good time to go to the loo (problem being you ended up with 50% of Hammersmith Odeon empty & 1500 people in the queue for the khazi!).
Drum solos have to go somewhere, they have to grab the 90% of the audience who don't consider drums & percussion to be musical instruments in their own right.
The late (and much lamented) Pierre Moerlin was a master of this, as is (to my mind) Neil Peart - how many drum solos have garnered a Grammy nomination, as did Peart's 'O Baterista'? This solo is an awesome display, combining power, restraint, humour (believe it or not), technical prowess, and above all, staying interesting to the end - a quality I'm afraid that John Bonham never had for me in his solos.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 09:00 |
Jim Garten wrote:
Dick Heath wrote:
Tony Williams Live In Japan, has a drum battle between Tony Williams and Billy Cobham. |
Want it!
For me in the 1980s, when 90% of the gigs I went to were heavy metal, the drum solo was always a good time to go to the loo (problem being you ended up with 50% of Hammersmith Odeon empty & 1500 people in the queue for the khazi!).
Drum solos have to go somewhere, they have to grab the 90% of the audience who don't consider drums & percussion to be musical instruments in their own right.
The late (and much lamented) Pierre Moerlin was a master of this, as is (to my mind) Neil Peart - how many drum solos have garnered a Grammy nomination, as did Peart's 'O Baterista'? This solo is an awesome display, combining power, restraint, humour (believe it or not), technical prowess, and above all, staying interesting to the end - a quality I'm afraid that John Bonham never had for me in his solos. |
May seem an odd suggestion, but go to Brian Auger's website (he's on the album) for more details
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Andersfretless
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 09:34 |
well, i'm not a drummer, but I saw an extraordinary drum solo of Morgan
Agren with Mats/Morgan Band and i'm sure the gig will have been
different without this supercharge of energy!!
so the question is not if solos of any instruments are necessary or not
the important thing is how do we feel music...
I guess...
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rushfann2112
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 09:38 |
progron wrote:
I HAVE TO ASK THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL:
ARE LONG DRUM SOLOS IN ALBUMS AND CONCERTS REALLY NECESSARY? ISNT IT JUST BORING AND INTERESTS DRUMMERS ONLY?
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no no not really...im not a drummer and i find them totally kick ass. i love hearing Neil Pearts 8 min drum solos
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Haragei
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Location: United States
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 10:11 |
Chester Thompson on You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore Volume 2, Frank Zappa's Helsinki Concert/s.
It will give you a new appreciation for the drums. LISTEN!!!
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BaldFriede
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Joined: June 02 2005
Location: Germany
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 10:45 |
There is a studio album named "From Stickslands With Love" by various drummers, doing nothing but solos. A friend of us (who now lives in Japan) has it. I don't recall all of the drummers on it; the only one I remember is Mani Neumeier of Guru Guru and the Irene Schweizer Trio (I think the album was recorded before Guru Guru were formed, and he still played in that jazz trio at that time).
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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