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SevenColoured 
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Joined: April 14 2005 Status: Offline Points: 57 |
 Topic: Poor Reviews? (Thread title changed)Posted: October 11 2005 at 20:47 |
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You´re insane PORCUPINE TREE Stupid Dream  — After such a cornerstone as Signify , Porcupine Tree had to try even harder to renew themselves . Alas, they did but not the way I expected them to do. This album has too many hard rock guitars (borderline noisy-rock) and non-sensical songs. I never got into this album as I find it aggressive and find it relatively aimless.
What the f**k ? PORCUPINE TREE Revibew y Hugues Chantraine — This asks too much attention from the listener to be really worthy of better marks. ----
This is a review? Did you listen to the album?
CAMEL
Review by Hugues Chantraine
SPECIAL COLLABORATION 10:38:15 AM EST, 2/5/2004 — 2.9999 stars strictly on historical importance in the neverending Progstory. Can you believe this bores me to death that I never got to the end of it in one shot. The fact that this is a vocal-less album (except for some doodling towards the end of the album) is not helping me getting interested in it either. As I had the vinyll , I think I have never managed to even listen the end of both sides of it. Oh , I must've heard it many times but my attention had waned long ago. Of course , most of my colleagues will tell you that this is great , but if you are a newcomer start elsewhere for this is not a good intro to the band - because it is totally instrumental and does not represent that very facet of Camel . ----------------
Man this is a masterpiece.
I can show more of this review´s of sh*t, i just hope that this disease don´t contaminate others collaborators.
You´re insane.
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Cygnus X-2
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 24 2004 Location: Bucketheadland Status: Offline Points: 21342 |
Posted: October 11 2005 at 20:49 |
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It's Hugues's personal opinion. You can't call him insane for not liking an album you like. |
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yargh
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Joined: October 04 2005 Status: Offline Points: 421 |
Posted: October 11 2005 at 20:52 |
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I seem to recall giving Snow Goose three stars. I also know I didn't rate any Camel albums higher than three stars. But I do agree on the technical point that an album which rates a 2.9999 in the mind of the reviewer should be rounded off to a 3.0.
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SevenColoured
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Joined: April 14 2005 Status: Offline Points: 57 |
Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:02 |
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" We suggest you listen to an album several times before writing a review. It can take a number of listens to Prog albums in particular to begin to appreciate the music. " by progarchives He makes the oppose |
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:04 |
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Well he has done over 1000 reviews, surely there are a few bad eggs in the bunch. |
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SevenColoured
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:07 |
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These thing are reviews ? LIZARD Review by Hugues Chantraine  — Liked it enough at the store to buy it and once home , boy, did I get rid of that quick as it was really not my cup of tea. Neo only like Poland can do it , very clean sounding but like there are hundreds of such albums. MIKE OLDFIELD Review by Hugues Chantraine — The fist one had not made much of an impression on me so the second one is even less likely to. Like most people who bought this , a buddy of mine came quickly to regret it RICK WAKEMAN Review by Hugues Chantraine
---- and continues...
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Zac M
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:15 |
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Like Cygnus said, Hugues has written reviews for tons of albums.
He obviously doesn't care for an album that he gave a few stars.
It's just his opinion, besides he has good taste
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty |
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Man Overboard
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Joined: November 07 2004 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 3830 |
Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:21 |
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Yes, he is.
But we love him, for he is awesome. |
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SevenColoured
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:21 |
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I can make 1000 reviews without listening to the albuns and saying things without sense... |
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Man Overboard
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:22 |
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Damn shame that you've completely misjudged him. |
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Chris S
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:24 |
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All opinions - good people and remember HC overall has a very qualified and credible opinion, not that I agree about the Snow Goose and other of course.
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Zac M
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:27 |
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Ummm as far as I know, he has heard all of those albums at least once, you are misjudging him. |
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
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laplace
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Joined: October 06 2005 Location: popupControl(); Status: Offline Points: 7606 |
Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:32 |
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I was thinking of doing some reviews (starting with the Power and the
Glory, my favourite) but every time I see a thread complaining about
someone's opinions it makes me less likely to try.
Though, I will say that some of those reviews aren't really reviews at all, and more like anecdotes.. maybe they could be tidied and made relevant by the man himself.. |
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Trotsky
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:35 |
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1) An opinion is an opinion, and everybody has a right to one, as long they express themselves with a certain degree of civility. I wonder what you'd make of the hammering that I gave to Kraftwerk, Can and The Enid ... 2) You'll note that all the highlighted reviews were written in Febuary or March of 2004, since then Hugues has written more than 1,000 reviews. He has actually stated elsewhere that he is not that happy with some of his earliest reviews and may go back and change them. Not that he needs me to defend him, but this guy should really be judged on his overall knowledge and reviewing skills ... read his Soft Machine series for example ... 3) In a totally unrelated note, Hugues may well be insane ... nobody can listen to that much prog and survive |
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SevenColoured
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:35 |
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:36 |
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That may as well be true... |
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SevenColoured
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:39 |
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Man i accept that, but i hope when he give´s one star or two to an album he explain why? Not just writing thing likes these... "This asks too much attention from the listener to be really worthy of better marks. " |
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Bryan
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:51 |
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Hughes has admitted on numerous occasions that some of his early
reviews aren't any good, and has stated that he's gradaully going back
through in an effort to improve them. If you could lay off the
insults, I'm sure we'd all appreciate it.
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Zac M
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:52 |
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Agreed, I would appreciate it as well |
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SevenColoured
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 21:58 |
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What insults? |
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