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Fraja
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Topic: Lady Fantasy or Close To The Edge Posted: October 09 2005 at 13:59 |
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Siberian Khatru
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Posted: October 09 2005 at 14:08 |
no offence but this has no point just like ctte & tarkus
lady fantasy is great song, probably the best song created by camel
(personally i have no doubt about it) It has kicking moments (beginning
and finale) but average vocals
CTTE is far more complicated but usually the structure is not the most important thing within a song.
i think they are equal
_stay heavy_
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History recalls how great the fall can be
While everybody is sleeping, the boats put out to sea
Borne on the wings of time
It seemed the answers were so easy to find..
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King of Loss
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Posted: October 09 2005 at 14:24 |
Close to the Edge
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Bj-1
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Posted: October 09 2005 at 14:26 |
Close To The Edge
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 09 2005 at 14:34 |
Lady Fantasy easily and by a mile.
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The Miracle
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Posted: October 09 2005 at 14:42 |
CTTE, what the hell
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RoyalJelly
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Posted: October 09 2005 at 16:20 |
Lady Fantasy is a wimpy, wet dream kinda tune with absolutely
no edge of any kind...Camel was listened to back in the day (at
least in our hood) with mild amusement, but everyone
considered them as jumping on the bus that was already
rolling, definitely in the minor leagues compared to the big
boys, ELP, Tull, and you know, the usual suspects. I listened to
them recently, but it hasn't fared any better with the years. For
people who haven't the attention span to tackle the real
compositional pinnacles of this time (comparing "Close..." to
"Thick as a Brick" would be more apt), Camel is just fine, but to
suggest that Lady fantasy can hold a candle to THE epic of
early prog is unfathomable. The chords are the same as "Light
my Fire" for god's sake...
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Publius
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Posted: October 09 2005 at 16:43 |
I went for CTTE, although Camel are one of my favourite bands at the moment. I've just heard enough of Lady Fantasy.
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jotah15
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Posted: October 09 2005 at 17:08 |
I vote Close to the edge. The sound that Yes make in that year is just amazing!
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Pr@gmatic
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Posted: October 09 2005 at 18:11 |
Lady Fantasy is great.
Still, my vote goes to one of prog's true anthems:
CTTE
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Philrod
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Posted: October 09 2005 at 23:47 |
As good as Lady Fantasy is, it absolutely does not match CTTE
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Posted: October 10 2005 at 02:17 |
close to the lady
my best post ever
supper's ready!!!!!!
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: October 10 2005 at 02:44 |
Pointless comparison but Lady Fantasy by a mile - no contest!
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The Slime
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Posted: October 10 2005 at 06:12 |
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The Slime I am!
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proger
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Posted: October 10 2005 at 07:57 |
"Lady Fantsy, i love you " too
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Chipiron
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Posted: October 10 2005 at 08:01 |
Close to Lady Fantasy
.... No. Close to the Edge
Edited by Chipiron
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Mnemosyne
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Posted: October 10 2005 at 12:40 |
Lady FAntasy gets my vote... Absolute CAmel Masterpiece...
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Manunkind
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Posted: October 10 2005 at 12:59 |
A tough call, but it's the Lady for me.
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eduardossc
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Posted: October 10 2005 at 15:58 |
This is really surprising to me. After the CTTE almost flawless victory on that "Tarkus Vs CTTE" Poll, I thought CTTE would make a perfect 100% result here.
I consider Tarkus a much better match than "Lady fantasy" against The superb Prog-pop (like Rock -pop, techno-pop) song "Close to the edge". Whatsmore, I voted Tarkus on that one.
I think the songwriting is way better on "Lady fantasy" than on "Close to the edge". That means I can listen to it more times without the feeling that Iīve listened too much of it. The main problem with "Close to the edge" is that it is too Poppy for my taste. I mean, The lenght and the playing is prog 100%. Still, the structure is very very simple and conventional. Like a regular pop song and those choruses repeated all over the track makes me feel like listening "The sun always shines on tv" for the 20th time. Thatīs the problem. "Lady fantasy" on the other hand, may not present the intensity and fantastic playing of the section 14:51 to 15:54 on "Close". But does not present a single moment of "Deja vu". I mean, that youīve heard the same before.
Also, on "Close". In order to get to that fantastic piece of one minute of music, you have to bear 5 complete minutes of a repetitive ballad. Those moments offer absolutly no chalenge after the first listen. I find that middle section not just borring, but also pointless. "Close" is almost a sing along song. I reaaly still donīt understand the phenomenon around "Close".
I sure do appreciate it and enjoy the bass, drum and guitar game, but thatīs it. Once I start paying more attention to the melody I canīt help feeling bored. Like: "Oh yeah, the multi chorus song"
I take "Lady fantasy" on this one too.
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Logos
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 00:40 |
Close to the Edge.
Also speaking of Tarkus, these two are not even comparable, CttE is totally in it's own league.
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