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Bryan ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 01 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3013 |
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Wire and The Velvet Underground are amazing. I went with the VU due to their massive influence on all popular music.
On a sidenote, some people on this forum are way too close minded. As soon as they hear the word punk they have a knee-jerk reaction and think of all the stereotypes associated with the genre. Ironically, that's probably how most people view prog. |
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krusty ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 27 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1777 |
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I agree with most of this I have always thought of The Stranglers as a Doors influenced band I mean La Folie(?sp) isn't too punk either is it. Did you ever get "The Black Album" by the Dammed as well? Again not very punk.. even has violins on it ![]() Yeah, I was another subhumans fan ![]() What about Rudimentry Peni, Discharge, Vice Squad, Rubella Ballet, in fact alot of the No Future and Crass label acts... Plus I suppose you could include some Oi bands as well.. ![]() ![]() o the memories... |
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Syzygy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 16 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7003 |
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You know, Miracle, there are also some prog fans who don't like punk. |
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Certif1ed ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
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Found out who did "Gary Gilmore's Eyes" - it was the Adverts. Cracking song with manic lyrics about a murderer on Death Row who decides that he's got no use for his eyes any more, so he donates them to science. http://www.comnet.ca/~rina/adverts.html
I never got to see Subhumans, but I saw Culture Shock many times on the underground circuit (disused warehouse gigs in London, impromtu gigs in fields in the middle of nowhere, that sort of thing), and I saw Citizen Fish at "properly organised" gigs. http://archive.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/2000/citizenfish.h tml All of Culture Shock's output is sterling stuff - an unutterably perfect blend of ska, punk and Dick's socio-political ramblings that are so mad they're nearly genius. I don't think you can get it on CD though.
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Fantômas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 1859 |
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Actually, these texts are VERY funny... ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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And above all, is punk
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Fantômas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 1859 |
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To me, punk is also great because of the lyrics. In one hand, prog rock
ALWAYS had CRAPPY lyrics. But some punk bands really did it well... I
won't even say Dead Kennedys, Jello Biafra (the Noam Chomsky of rock and roll) is
the best lyricist ever. Instead, one absolutely GREAT song of Flipper,
one of the best lyrics I ever had the chance to read. Here it is:
Flipper - Ever Ever live a life that's real Full of zest, but no appeal? Ever had to really cry, Cry so much you want to die? Ever feel that you've been had? Had so much that you turn mad? Ever been so depressed, That those you turn to, you bring distress? Ever sit in tormenting silence, That turns so loud, you start to scream? Ever take control of a dream, And play all the parts, and set all the scenes? Ever do nothing And gain nothing from it? Ever feel stupid, And then you know you really are? Ever think you're smart And find out that you aren't? Ever play the fool, And find that you're even worse? Ever look at a flower And hate it? Ever see a couple kissing And get sickened by it? Ever wish the human race didn't exist, And realize you're one too? Ever isn't just one of the most brilliant lyrics on rock and roll, but above all it's a kind of a frightening universal application autobiographical report, showing what exists of more obscure and mediocre in all of us. |
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Pr@gmatic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 04 2005 Location: Virgin Islands Status: Offline Points: 1023 |
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WOW! ![]() ![]() You've disappointed me, my friend. ![]() ![]() ![]() And yes, I agree with The Miracle. No need to repeat that ol' beloved phrase you're all familiar with... |
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Pr@gmatic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 04 2005 Location: Virgin Islands Status: Offline Points: 1023 |
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The Velvet Underground it's pretty good actually.
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ClemofNazareth ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659 |
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Bad Brains, Mother's Finest, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Fear ![]() ![]() BTW, I think punk had one thing in common with prog in that its music represented a conscious attempt to produce something different, heartfelt, and emotional. Two of the many differences are that 1. Punk was so infused with destructive behaviour that it largely bought about its own demise through simple attrition (kind of like religious cults that preach celibacy 2. Punks's best days are behind it because the genre pretty much stopped growing after 1979 or so (IMHO). Edited by ClemofNazareth |
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus |
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ClemofNazareth ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659 |
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BTW, Devo is considered punk?! By who?
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus |
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The Miracle ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
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funny, yeah. And sad |
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Hemispheres ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 22 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 533 |
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there early stuff is considered to be post punk |
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Fantômas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 1859 |
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Sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Pr@gmatic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 04 2005 Location: Virgin Islands Status: Offline Points: 1023 |
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^ It's OK.
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Wally ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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Phil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 17 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1881 |
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This poll shows I guess the difference between what a Brit considers
punk and an American might. To my mind e.g Talking Heads, Velvet
Underground are definitely NOT punk. Of the above list the best band
for me is either Talking Heads or Television, but the best punk
band...and they were OK.... were the Clash. That's not me saying" I
like them so put them on the list"...they were considered by many the
best of what punk - at least in Britain - was about; angry young men
with strong political messages, and some good tumes. Your list really
is incomplete without them!!
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America2k1 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: September 20 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Mine's Bad Religion.
Why are proto- and post-punk bands on the list? And would you really want to include emo (Fugazi, for instance) on a Punk poll? Edited by America2k1 |
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Zargus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 08 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 3491 |
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The Stooges I love thire "Fun House" album, no doubt one of the best punk albums ever made
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ShaunoNoNo ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: July 15 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 92 |
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Minor Threat. hXc |
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NutterAlert ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 07 2005 Location: In transition Status: Offline Points: 2808 |
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Its The Clash for me. Not on the list but Punk credentials, although they also touched on reggae, ska & jazz. They had a talented guitarist who even had long hair (well by punk standards in '77). Saw them in '78 I think and have liked them ever since. |
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