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Gentle Ronnie 
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Joined: March 17 2005 Status: Offline Points: 540 |
 Posted: October 04 2005 at 11:32 |
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Proves my point that a Dream Theater fanboy is the most ignorant kind of fanboy ever. |
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DT15
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Joined: October 04 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 31 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 11:33 |
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Im in the middle of writing it now. And I don't appreciate the patronising. This is going to take a lot of time and effort so please stop being immature. Also, iny my essay i'm not going to say one band is as good as another im just musically analysing close to the edge. and btw i never once said my '"Almighty musical analysis" is so worthy' |
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cobb
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Joined: July 10 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 11:37 |
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Bachelor of Music Composition - I doubt it
25 years old- unlikely 12 years old- probably. Go easy on the kid, guys |
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Logos
Prog Reviewer 
Joined: March 08 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2383 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 11:37 |
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You're way off because Close to the Edge is above ALL criticism!
Edited by Logos |
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DT15
Forum Newbie
Joined: October 04 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 31 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 11:42 |
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Can't wait to show you guys my review. So far it's 5 pages and i've harldy started... |
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thrang theng
Forum Groupie 
Joined: September 09 2005 Status: Offline Points: 74 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 11:52 |
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Where will you post it? Would it be here on the forum or on the Yes albums reviews ? |
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Take my fire
Take my food and water Forget about those promises Of social good and social order... |
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DT15
Forum Newbie
Joined: October 04 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 31 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 11:53 |
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I'm not sure. I don't want to give a rating out of 5 based on the system. maybe i'll just post it here |
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NutterAlert
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Joined: June 07 2005 Location: In transition Status: Offline Points: 2808 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 12:06 |
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*NutterAlert on one knee head tilted downwards* How do you intend to present this epic to us. Sacred scrolls passed down from high? Tablets of stone? |
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Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005
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Intruder
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 13 2005 Status: Offline Points: 2195 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 12:09 |
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25 year old gets a BA in composition....and then praises DT while knocking bands like Yes and Genesis. Like a lit major raving about the works of Joan Collins. Look at me....I'm a musician. Look at me....I went to college. My old mammy always told me beware of people who have to TELL you what they are. To my ears, son, you're a rank amateur. |
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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FragileDT
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VIP Member Joined: June 20 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1485 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 12:19 |
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In the good words of Genesis "I'd rather trust a man who doesn't shout what he's found" |
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
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John Gargo
Forum Senior Member
Joined: January 26 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 450 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 12:50 |
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Oh boy oh boy!!! |
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Man Overboard
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Joined: November 07 2004 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 3830 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 13:03 |
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And I used to think a douchebag was just a feminine hygeine product.
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Hangedman
Prog Reviewer
Joined: November 03 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1261 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 13:23 |
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Well I know a very accomplished musician who is 54 and id be williing to bet hes better than you at every instrument he plays (keys, guitar, and bass). Hes played for some famous canadian acts and is proficient in every style of music. He likes Yes, Dream Theater makes him laugh. Theres more to music then who can play an uninspired solo faster
 A lot of it is personal taste.
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bobbyross73
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Joined: September 22 2005 Status: Offline Points: 7 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 13:32 |
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I am a musician and sometimes the best judge for music is a non-musician. Because they think about the music as a whole. Most musicians (myself included) tend to hear more of the details and thereby sometimes do not see the bigger picture. At least that's what I think.... Edited by bobbyross73 |
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator 
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 14:40 |
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I think the specific discussions on DT15's methods has gone far enough. I'm sure he has got the message. Please now keep this thread to the matter he raised in his original post, and avoid personal criticism. He's entitled to his opinion, even if he's wrong! Here's what he said : " I am sick and tired of listening to you old folk talk about how you don't enjoy quality acts such as Dream Theater. One reviewer said it's not to his taste...ok then that's fine. So let me have my say now. If i want to fall asleep or have a good laugh, I'll listen to Yes or Genesis or Pink Floyd (etc). C'mon you oldies...this music is not as great as you all say it is. I am a 25 year old bachelor of music composition graduate and have been playing the keyboard, guitar and drums for a little over 10 yrs, so I AM a musician, unlike most of you. But instead of going into a lengthy essay about why this music is just plain boring, I'll just do what so many of you people do and say 'it's not to my taste'. So there you have it, I voiced my opinion and I don't care if you don't care but I am honest to God when I say that crappy old school prog rock bores me to tears and no matter how many times I listen to Yes' 'Close to the Edge', I will never understand why you guys get boners over it. The music is nothing earth shattering. But it's fine, if you oldies get so excited and this sorta stuff makes your hair stand up...well that's fine...but seriously now, just make sure you know there are educated musicians like myself who simply find it all boring. |
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yargh
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Joined: October 04 2005 Status: Offline Points: 421 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 14:48 |
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It would be one thing if you blasted Genesis and Yes, yet offered up a credible band as your favorite... but Dream Theater? Dream Theater are cliche-meisters; copiers of the innovations of others. They're good musicians, but they aren't doing anything innovative or particularly creative from a music-making standpoint. You may find Yes and Genesis to be boring, but they made 4th generation tag-a-longs like Dream Theater possible. |
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horza
Prog Reviewer
Joined: August 31 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2530 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 14:57 |
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i don't think we are good enough for you my friend
i like dream theater so its a shame you started insulting my age 
don't feel obliged to give me a snappy reply 
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
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King of Loss
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Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16451 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 15:00 |
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People also should be nicer and realize that everyone has different musical tastes... (Yes, even here)
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DEzerov
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 340 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 15:02 |
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Hello seeker! Now don't feel alone here in the New Age,
because there's a seeker born every minute. |
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The moon is made by some lame cooper and you can see the idiot has no idea about moons at all - Nikolay Gogol
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Morandar
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Joined: July 25 2005 Status: Offline Points: 52 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 15:12 |
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I find the whole discussion pointless, but this reply is great: you're absolutely right. I, and I am a musician, sometimes discover myself in searching for music which is not good, but only tasteful from a musicianship point of view. Doing this, too many times I excluded from my listenings great bands for, to make two important examples, not having keyboards or not being "progressive" (when sometimes even simple songs can be great...maybe ;)). About the topic, I like DT and find them brilliant (until 6doit, well). But also like, in a total different way, prog rock - which IS important, however, to understand DT. I could not be the best fan of YES (I'm listening at Close to the Edge right now and don't find it marvellous), but I can understand their importance. DT15 cannot, but I am very curious about reading his literary efforts about destroying this band and the whole prog rock movement. Until now I only read whinings. |
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Dangerous to be closely minded by a closed mind.
Ordine Geometrico Demonstrata - the ultimate attempt at you will to listen. |
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