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DallasBryan
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 23 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3323 |
Posted: January 16 2005 at 20:27 | |
Guillermo, you are right ELO is progressive rock in
the early years. No Answer is definitlely and Eldorado was one of the first true(only one or two really worked) concept albums in rock n roll in the mid 70's. There seems to be this either younger generation that has been exposed to so many different kinds of crap and grew up hearing them on the radio or a british society mainstream idea that they are British AOR because they were frequently played on british radio or northeastern USA stations, where they decide in institutes(stuck inside because its to damn cold), what is or aint this and that! Their brains are frozen. So dont feel bad your right! Edited by DallasBryan |
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Guillermo
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 28 2004 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 814 |
Posted: January 17 2005 at 13:07 | |
Definitions in Progarchives: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp "PROGRESSIVE ROCK — a style that combines rock, classical, psychedelic and literary elements — was born in the late '60s with art-rock bands like Pink Floyd and King Crimson, whose albums typically featured 7 to 10 minutes songs with shifting time signatures and evolving musical themes. " ____________________ Edited by Guillermo |
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Guillermo
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 28 2004 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 814 |
Posted: January 17 2005 at 13:22 | |
More definitions in Progarchives: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp " Art Rock (Symphonic Prog is often refereed to as Art Rock) — A name that is used to refer to early explorative work that had roots in popular music.Very structured and even adventurous, sometimes hard or heavy, sometimes mellow, strong melodies, good hooks are an integral part of most of the material. Bands in this category can and have produced material falling into other categories as well. There may be moments of outright progressive rock but with more of a pop influence and certainly a tendency towards shorter songs. Examples: BE BOP DELUXE, early ENO, ROXY MUSIC. " In my opinion, ELO is still Progressive, if you read these definitions. Why Roxy Music wasn`t included before in the discography?
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Guillermo
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 28 2004 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 814 |
Posted: January 17 2005 at 14:49 | |
In the "All Music Guide" there are some good writers about music. One is William Ruhlmann. I have a good book about Pink Floyd written by him. Yes, they changed the format, but they have corrected some mistakes, and they also added biographies about bands which didn`t have Biographies in that website. Yes, maybe their main interest is commercial, but a lot of websites survive due to their commercial activities. Anyway, I consider the AMG a good website. I have visited this website since 1999. |
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Squirrel_monkey
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 12:36 | |
Apparently the best ever prog album... Disc: 2 |
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: January 21 2005 at 15:03 | |
Guillermo, You're making a good case, I'm starting to believe! I'd certainly agree about "Eldorado", a fine prog album. |
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Lunarscape
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Posted: January 21 2005 at 16:54 | |
Sure enough ELO is progressive enough to be listed here. ________ Lunar |
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Olympus
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Posted: September 30 2005 at 18:57 | |
They should be put a new catogary called semi-progressive.
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memowakeman
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 01:11 | |
MAYBE PROG RELATED OR ART ROCK...BUT MAYBE.... IN FACT I DONT CONSIDERE THEM AS PROG |
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Frasse
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 10:32 | |
I voted Yes since there now is a prog-related "genre" in the archives.
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Jared
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 10:35 | |
I've gone for 'no' I'm afraid; I agree that the first two albums are def worthy of inclusion, but Third Day and Eldorado less so (I owned all 4 of them once..), and the rest is borderline Art Rock/ Pop, which is of little interest here...
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The Miracle
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
Posted: October 01 2005 at 14:33 | |
No, they're not prog. They're a pop band
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