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    Posted: May 29 2005 at 15:20

GREEN DAY SUCKS. billie joe is hot?!
he’s the ugliest freak ever... anyway, why are all their fans discussing greendays hotness? the answer is simple: there’s no music to discuss, so they
are talking about looks  Reminds me of
Backstreet Boys Nsync ,etc. actually, what is the difference? they are all cheap
commercial pop stars who cant really sing or
play. a real rock band should be devoted to
music. classic bands like Led Zep, Yes, Genesis, whoever else  were not punk, they did not comment on political or other music-nonrelated subjects, they did not have any bright image, and they had talent. At their time they were more popular than greenday now.  They attracted fans by their music not because they are so hot or cool, they dint even have mtv or kroq  to promote them.  Grammy should be renamed into sucking band award. This far it has only been awarded to bands that suck. eminem? britney spears? greenday? deserve to be awarded? with a good beating, yes

Here, check out these two sites:

http://www.geocities.com/gdaysucks/GreenDaySucks.html

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http://home.swipnet.se/~w-11931/gd.htm

 

Btw, you may bash any other pop punk band here if you want

 

 


 

 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2005 at 15:24

They are pretty crap aren't they.  But they're on a major label with a BIG PR budget, so of course they're going to be on commerical radio and TV. 

It is the same old sh1t on those stations/TV shows...full of regurgitated pap.  Glad to hear you found prog, I'm sure (in a few years time) you'll be the envy of your friends for listening to good music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2005 at 15:31
The first greenday album "dookie"(i think) isnt that bad, pop isnt a four letter word . You shouldnt hold peoples tastes against them though, just embrace it. That beign said, welcome! If you like those bands youll love it here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2005 at 20:15
I like Green Day, I think that they are ok.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2005 at 22:12
My daughter is 14 and OBSESSED with them.I don't really dislike them,but I hear way too much of them and about them in my house,I am getting really tired of them.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2005 at 22:23

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

My daughter is 14 and OBSESSED with them.I don't really dislike them,but I hear way too much of them and about them in my house,I am getting really tired of them.

Perhaps you should consider teaching your daughter about real music, and thereby breaking the cycle(parents with crappy music taste have kids who likes crappy music, who have kids...) before it's too late.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2005 at 23:18

Poxx,I have tried and tried and tried to introduce her to some good music.She is exposed to so much prog it's not funny.She just doesn't like it.I did get her into the Beatles though.BTW,Are you insinuating I have crappy taste in music?I like Yes,Genesis,ELP,KC,Rush,Spock's Beard,Neal Morse,The Flower Kings..etc.That's crappy music???????

 



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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Poxx,I have tried and tried and tried to introduce her to some good music.She is exposed to so much prog it's not funny.She just doesn't like it.I did get her into the Beatles though.BTW,Are you insinuating I have crappy taste in music?I like Yes,Genesis,ELP,KC,Rush,Spock's Beard,Neal Morse,The Flower Kings..etc.That's crappy music???????

 

That's okay. Most younger kids are into simpler and lighter music. Usually that music isnt good at all, but that's just how it goes. Another problem is than nobody wants to promote the good music, what is promoted is the bad music. The tremendous amount of all this pop-punk merchandise just freaks me out

If you succeeded getting her into Beatles, try Creedence Clearwater Revival(might seem strange, but I heard some green day fans liking them)

Rolling Stones, AC/DC, and Kiss. They are not as complicated and are waaaaaaaaay easier to get into then Yes or Genesis.

If These do well,then try Zeppelin and Deep Purple(IMO, Led Zep is the greatest band of all time ) Starting with prog is easier with most "poplike" bands, like Asia or late Genesis.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2005 at 04:37
Their early stuff isn't all that bad, it's just when their most recent album came out, everybody started to say that they liked Green Day form the beginning, when I bought Dookie and Nimrod on the days that they came out (this was before I discovered Prog Rock).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2005 at 13:41

I like all of green days work. It's simple yes, but its catchy and energetic. Billy Joe is an excellent lyricist, and the rthymn section is pretty decent if you listen without a critical mind (which i fear is near impossible for prog fans)

Different strokes for different folks. It doesn't have to be complex or musically adventerous for me to enjoy it. just my 2 cents.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2005 at 21:19
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Poxx,I have tried and tried and tried to introduce her to some good music.She is exposed to so much prog it's not funny.She just doesn't like it.I did get her into the Beatles though.BTW,Are you insinuating I have crappy taste in music?I like Yes,Genesis,ELP,KC,Rush,Spock's Beard,Neal Morse,The Flower Kings..etc.That's crappy music???????

 

Oh, how the pressure from society's view's of what is trendy and what is not, must be hard on her. I suppose it would only be unnatural for a 14 year old girl to appreciate something like Spock's Beard. Don't give up on her.

In my previous post, I purposedly pointed out that you would be capable of teaching her about real music, and didn't make it clear that you were excluded from the "cycle". How provocative I am . From that little list, I'd say the "cycle" doesn't apply to you.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2005 at 00:16
I'm one of those who feels that being a hardcore prog lover doesn't mean dismissing other more simple styles ...  Green Day are not in my Top 200 or so artists and I do think about 2/3 of what I've heard is lousy, but I must say that the band have their moments ... I'd certainly much rather listen to them singing When I Come Around, Warning or Time Of Your Life than hear what I consider to be bad and overblown prog (Transatlantic is the one that sticks to mind) ... oddly enough GD seem to me to be getting better with time ... I thought those multi-part songs on the most recent album American Idiot weren't bad ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2005 at 00:33
Green Day writes good pop-rock, it's not meant to be challenging or progressive, but as entertaining to as many people as possible. Their sound is exactly what they want it to be, therefore they are very good at what they do.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2005 at 07:29
I quite like them, especially the American Idiot album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2005 at 07:33
Yes, American Idiot is pretty  good, I,ve also got an earlier album "Insomnia"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2005 at 11:05

I'm 17 at present and I can safely say that I really do not like Green Day at all. I see no reason why I should listen to a track called 'Geek Stink Breath' over something called 'Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers', for example- even the title of your average prog song is more challenging and innovative than Green Day's whole back catalogue, in my opinion.

However, it's unfair for me to single out Green Day alone; although I like most old school, 70s punk/garage rock, the modern punk/indie bands leave me cold and show no real innovation- everyone seems to rip off The Buzzcocks, The Sex Pistols, XTC, Gang Of Four or Joy Division now, without adding anything new to the original blueprint.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2005 at 11:11
I think in fact, salmacis, that Billy Joe cites The Buzzcocks as one of his influences!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2005 at 11:14
Fact of the matter is we need bands like Greenday around, to affirm that progressive music is king.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2005 at 15:31
Some of thier earlier stuff was respectable (good). But thier lastest effort is quite bad. That one song commerical radio plays over and over again is decent, i think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2005 at 02:01
My girlfriend likes them .
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