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    Posted: June 19 2005 at 19:34
After repeated listenings, I think this is their finest hour. I'll always have a soft spot for The Wake, and Subterranea is pretty amazing. But I think Dark Matter just rules. So many great themes and melodies, and I like the arrangements. There's a nice clarity in the mix too, the album sounds really good. Anyone agree? Or disagree?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 19:46

It's a very good album, certainly a big improvement over The Seventh House, which was a pretty weak batch of tea, imho.

And Salmacis, high praise to you on both your user name and logo - you have excellent taste!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 19:48
I like the album & it was a definite improvement on 'Seventh House'. I wouldn't say it was their best though. 'Ever' & 'Subtereania' are their two stand out albums IMHO. I was recently at a gig & Martin Orford was in the audience. I over heard him talking about 'Dark Matter' to a group of people & he said IQ just wanted to record a good old fashioned prog album that had a strong sense of melody. I would say they achieved that with 'Dark Matter'.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 19:51

I've only heard 'Seventh House' other than this cd, but Dark Matter still remains to be a classy album.  It's brilliant from start to finish, and the lead singer's name(I forget it now - I'll have to look it up) sounds eerily similar to Jon Anderson at times(which I like.)

Overall, I prefer DM to SH by a long slide.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 19:56

I agree. Thumbs Up It's a great album. Especially with the oldies sounds of mellotron! But I also love Ever, Subterranea, The Wake, The 7th House.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 20:02

Quote And Salmacis, high praise to you on both your user name and logo - you have excellent taste!

Ah, thank you good man. "Fountain" was an early favorite of mine (I first got into the band of my own accord when I was 14 or so and that song just blew my mind - I was exposed to them as early as 1980 however, when my older brother would play "Wind" and "Seconds Out" and I would look at the albums which he kept in milk crates (he was a teen in the 70's, older than me)) - wow I know how to ramble. Apologies. And Olias Of Sunhillow is one of my all time favorite albums and I keep wanting to get that symbol tatooed. Maybe one day.

As for Ever, a lot of people cite that as the ultimate or close to ultimate IQ album, but it ranks about 4th or so for me.

ProgRockerJDS: That's quite an oddity there in your sig - the old logo beside a Marbles-era pic!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 21:02
I think Dark Matter is a great album and I rank it up there with my IQ faves Ever and Subterranea.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2005 at 21:10
Originally posted by Salmacis72 Salmacis72 wrote:

Olias Of Sunhillow is one of my all time favorite albums

Olias is so good it's kind of weird - it's like a direct transmission from another universe or something. Wonderful.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2005 at 20:13

I agree that it rules - and it is.

I think it's their greatest album since the begining and that's a little weird for me because they are veterans. They desserve a better recognition in Israel for my humble oppinion.

They are great. Melodic and Harmonic themes and sounds and it surely is my last album that I really really can rate as a classic-ten.

Another one bite's the dust.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 08:45

A brilliant album - the best I've heard from IQ by quite a way. "Harvest of Souls" is the best prog epic since, well maybe "Awaken". As Salmacis said, the production and mixing is top rate, it sounds old and new at the same time, if you see what I mean. It manages to sound up to date whilst at the same time having classic organ and guitar sounds.

A work of genius.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 09:16

On Maani's thread, I have given both DM and Ever 4.5/5 (that's about as good as it gets from me), but if I was stuck on a desert island with Valerie Singleton, i'd chose 'Ever'...because of the depth of feeling it has....

having said that, if I was stuck on a desert island with Nicole Kidman, I may choose some Luther Vandross...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 10:28
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

On Maani's thread, I have given both DM and Ever 4.5/5 (that's about as good as it gets from me), but if I was stuck on a desert island with Valerie Singleton, i'd chose 'Ever'...because of the depth of feeling it has....

having said that, if I was stuck on a desert island with Nicole Kidman, I may choose some Luther Vandross...

If I was stuck on a desert island with Nicole Kidman, I wouldn't care what music I had. Or maybe I'd go for "Slide it in" by Whitesnake.

Do I detect a Valerie Singleton fetish there, fandango?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 10:41
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

On Maani's thread, I have given both DM and Ever 4.5/5 (that's about as good as it gets from me), but if I was stuck on a desert island with Valerie Singleton, i'd chose 'Ever'...because of the depth of feeling it has....

having said that, if I was stuck on a desert island with Nicole Kidman, I may choose some Luther Vandross...

If I was stuck on a desert island with Nicole Kidman, I wouldn't care what music I had. Or maybe I'd go for "Slide it in" by Whitesnake.

Do I detect a Valerie Singleton fetish there, fandango?

I was thinking more 'Would I Lie To You?' actually...especially the spoken bit at the end of the track that got deleted on the single...

I've always seen VS as a bit of a Grandma figure...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 11:12
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

On Maani's thread, I have given both DM and Ever 4.5/5 (that's about as good as it gets from me), but if I was stuck on a desert island with Valerie Singleton, i'd chose 'Ever'...because of the depth of feeling it has....

having said that, if I was stuck on a desert island with Nicole Kidman, I may choose some Luther Vandross...

If I was stuck on a desert island with Nicole Kidman, I wouldn't care what music I had. Or maybe I'd go for "Slide it in" by Whitesnake.

Do I detect a Valerie Singleton fetish there, fandango?

I was thinking more 'Would I Lie To You?' actually...especially the spoken bit at the end of the track that got deleted on the single...

I've always seen VS as a bit of a Grandma figure...

What was the spoken bit then?

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 11:28
Heh. When I first started listening, I've always said 'Hey! That's a badass sounding part!, it took me aswell couple of repeated listening, but when I finally connected to the album, well, let's just say that everyday in the Summer I heard this album twice.

Lironos, in Israel Progressive itself should be more known, not only IQ.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2005 at 22:20
As first I thought Dark Matter was "just" a good album, but I'm liking it more and more ... Top 5 of the decade for me ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2005 at 22:32

My favorite IQ album happens to be The Seventh House, but Dark Matter is also at the top of my favorites.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2005 at 05:22

Prefer The Seventh House'

But only just. Both SH and Dark Matter are among the best neo prog albums ever made IMO.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2005 at 08:54

In my book The Seventh House is the weakest IQ among their "second coming" period albums... Why? Because it has only one really good track, two OK tracks and the rest is boring as hell. Ever, Dark Matter and Subterranea are all better records than TSH, imho.

I don't really care for their early albums at all... They sound like unabashed Genesis wannabes on them.  



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2005 at 14:37

As you've probably guessed by now I reckon Dark Matter was their finest album as they must have got a new drum kit as it doesn't have the jarring drumming as aptly illustrated on Ever. Seventh House is very good as well. In fact they are all good albums ----------------------apart from that drumming. If only I could get my hands on the master tapes?????

Good weekend Fan?



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