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Cygnus X-2
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 24 2004 Location: Bucketheadland Status: Offline Points: 21342 |
Posted: September 22 2005 at 23:41 | ||||
Alright, there are a few good parts, but on the whole, it was a debacle! And Goodbye Blue Sky is one of the best songs on the Wall. |
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: September 23 2005 at 03:45 | ||||
I'll have a look at the DT's Cygnus, I had already weeded out some of the worst! Re the ratings only, there could of course be two "Velvetclowns"! |
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21185 |
Posted: September 23 2005 at 03:54 | ||||
I also noticed the double ratings by Velvetclown, they're also in other DT albums. The ratings didn't show up in the list, so it's entirely possible that he had forgotten that he already rated the albums and his email address had changed. |
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Cluster One
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 03 2005 Status: Offline Points: 780 |
Posted: September 23 2005 at 04:53 | ||||
I don't necessarily like his format (all the capitals, and crap) nor what he said in the review BUT his ranking (1 star) is pretty close to the mark. I (very generously) gave this DVD 2 stars. I say keep the review, since so few people have even reviewed this DVD to begin with... |
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Marmalade...I like marmalade.
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Manunkind
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 2373 |
Posted: September 23 2005 at 08:51 | ||||
This is not a rview! This is not a rview! This is not a rview!... |
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: September 23 2005 at 09:08 | ||||
I'll delete it, I'll delete it, I'll delete it, I'll delete it
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tuxon
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 21 2004 Location: plugged-in Status: Offline Points: 5502 |
Posted: September 23 2005 at 14:25 | ||||
I'm not asking you to delete this BTW (please don't the rating is genuine, so it would be an informed "rating only"), but.
SUPERTRAMP "Crime of the Century" It's hard to believe that ROLLING STONE magazine gave this album an awful review when it first came out (they also gave Rush's "Moving Pictures" an awful review, as well). Hands down, one of the finest LP's I've ever laid ears on.
I just had to laugh out loud.
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: September 23 2005 at 14:50 | ||||
Tux, I did delete it, but I wrote to the reviewer asking him to submit another one. He hasn't reviewed the album at all.
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Ben2112
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 15 2005 Status: Offline Points: 870 |
Posted: September 23 2005 at 18:54 | ||||
Indeed it does. Looking at what I wrote yesterday, well, all I can say is...I was just a bit too harsh. I don't know what the deal was yesterday, I jumped down a couple of people's throats. Palm Palmer, if you're reading this, I apologize for the gusto with which I attacked your review. Actually, I do agree with a fairly good portion of it. /schizophrenia off |
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: September 23 2005 at 19:14 | ||||
I agree....just because its not PF, doesn't mean it can't be well done. BUT, this is not well done by any stretch of the imagination!!!!!!!!! And I'm a very tolerant sort of guy! |
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Bj-1
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 04 2005 Location: No(r)Way Status: Online Points: 31327 |
Posted: September 23 2005 at 20:15 | ||||
New Page "New Page" (2005) This is an dream review |
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Tony Fisher
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 30 2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 967 |
Posted: September 24 2005 at 04:43 | ||||
Recently, someone called jordisubir has given 1* ratings (no reviews) to Animals, Wish You Were Here, Mirage, Crime of the Century amongst many others. I can't find one album he's given more than 1* to. I think he is just trashing albums for the sake of being a prat. Can someone please check this and delete all his ratings (as they are distorting the ratings considerably) if this is so? We need thoughtful reviews and ratings. not random vendettas. You may not like these albums but there is no way they could all be rated 1*. |
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: September 24 2005 at 04:51 | ||||
That's a real can of worms Tony. If that's how he feels about them, he is entitled to say so. The old argument about no ratings without reviews is certainly strengthened by situations like that, as it would force him to explain, but I don't think we can assume a vendetta here. As long as ratings without reviews are permitted, there's not a lot I can do about "moderating" them. |
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21185 |
Posted: September 24 2005 at 04:57 | ||||
There's a guy who calls himself "yesfan" ... apparently he just rated every prog metal album that he could think of 1 star. If it turned out that he rates every symphonic prog album 5 stars, and every prog metal album 1 star ... That's an insult for every single person whose review is deleted because there is no reasoning. A little advice for you people writing "This is crap This is crap This is crap This is crap This is crap This is crap This is crap This is crap ...": Just don't write anything at all to ensure that your rating stays in the database. Edited by MikeEnRegalia |
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: September 24 2005 at 05:17 | ||||
Mike, I hear you, and I agree it is an issue. I had said many times I was against ratings without reviews. At least we can see now when people appear to be abusing the system, and use that as "evidence". As far as your advice is concerned, as a rule I would delete the text and leave the rating anyway. I can only suggest the ratings without reviews issue continues to be brought up regularly. |
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tuxon
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 21 2004 Location: plugged-in Status: Offline Points: 5502 |
Posted: September 24 2005 at 05:24 | ||||
Yes you can, I don't know what information you have available, for I think there are ways to moderate ratings |
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21185 |
Posted: September 24 2005 at 05:33 | ||||
Yes that's true ... and I'm very pleased about those ratings being "out in the open" now. But I'm not sure how that can help to prevent or reduce abuse. "yesfan" is a good example: It appears to be abuse, but we can't be certain. Maybe there's a way to detect abuse on the database level ... I'll PM M@x. |
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Tony Fisher
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 30 2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 967 |
Posted: September 24 2005 at 06:25 | ||||
Exactly - he's entitled to SAY so. He doesn't say ANYTHING - he just rates them low. If he rates so many highly rated (by so many others) albums so low and doesn't give ANY albums high ratings (I haven't checked them all but a fair few) I suspect he just hates all prog, in which case he has no place on this site. We want constructive reviews and sensible comment, otherwise the ratings system is pointless. Sure, give "bad" albums poor ratings if you feel they're justified (I've only given one - Piper at the Gates - but I explained why I hate it) but don't just sl*g a random selection of albums as he seems to have done. It's silly that a rating with no review stays, but a bad (ie inapporopriate) review gets deleted. |
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: September 24 2005 at 06:42 | ||||
Hear, hear.........DOWN WITH THE SYSTEM!!!!!!!!! |
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: September 24 2005 at 06:58 | ||||
Anyway... Can we keep this thread for inappropriate reviews guys. The rating without reviews issue is an important one, keep it going elsewhere. Meanwhile, keep those reviews observations coming, both new ones and old reviews which are lurking in the depths. I really appreciate your help in unearthing them! |
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