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R_DeNIRO
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Topic: Can somebody change of opinion? Posted: September 19 2005 at 12:35 |
A few days ago I listened to an album (Symphony X - The Damnation Game), and I realize that itīs not so good as a I remember, then I went to vote it. In the past I gave the album 3 stars, but now I want to give 2, but, surprise!, I canīt correct my vote because of my e-mail (obviously is the same that before). I think is ilogical. People's taste have an evolution. Today maybe we belive one thing and tomorrow another, the experiencie make us learn. The same thing happened with others albums, I canīt change my mind and I think is unfair. What can I do?
(Sorry for my poor english, I hope yo understand what I try to explain).
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horza
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 12:40 |
That album is pretty good IMO.Peoples taste does evolve but your snapshot of the album was correct.
By the way...are you talking to me? Are you talking to me? I don't see anyone else...so you must be talking to me!
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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sigod
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 12:43 |
You have a good point there (and your English is perfectly
understandable, you should hear my Spanish!!!).
In defence of the system, if people changed their votes all the time, the
reviews and the charting system might become no good as reference to other
people who might not know the artist at all (or at least not that well). That might
make it more difficult to judge if the music was worth
buying/downloading/performing.
I guess the best way to deal with this is to bear in mind that your
review is 'for ever' and to think hard about how you rate it.
The secret of all good reviews I hope!
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R_DeNIRO
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 12:46 |
Well, the main question is not if Symphony X's album is great or not, it's the impossibility of change of opinion. I think it's neccesary to have the oportunity of correct your vote, don't you think?
(And yes, I'm talking to you, you are dead)
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R_DeNIRO
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 13:03 |
sigod wrote:
<!--[if !vml]--><!--[endif]-->You have a good point there (and your English is perfectly understandable, you should hear my Spanish!!!).
In defence of the system, if people changed their votes all the time, the reviews and the charting system might become no good as reference to other people who might not know the artist at all (or at least not that well). That might make it more difficult to judge if the music was worth buying/downloading/performing.
I guess the best way to deal with this is to bear in mind that your review is 'for ever' and to think hard about how you rate it.
The secret of all good reviews I hope!
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Maybe you are right, but I donīt think that people will be changing their reviews all the time, I donīt do it. Anyway, althought your point of view is reasonable I'm still thinking the best, especially for people to know what is worth buying/downloable, is the possibility of change.In this way the reviews became more honestly and trustworthy.
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Astaroth
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 13:16 |
I think that people change their minds and should be able to change their ratings but ... It's easy to said it, but kind of difficult to implement (more work for the people on the site) or maybe they just didn't think about that.
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R_DeNIRO
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 13:21 |
Astaroth wrote:
I think that people change their minds and should be able to change their ratings but ... It's easy to said it, but kind of difficult to implement (more work for the people on the site) or maybe they just didn't think about that.
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I suposse that they have a mathematic form to do it, without more work.
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progmaniaczka
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 13:33 |
hmm I don't think it is such a big problem, becouse 1 vote won't change much. But You're right, those who make decisions (on this case) should enable us to evaluate songs, headway made by rock groups once more. But seemingly their policy doesn't live up to our expectations.. We have to accept it. Chin up! don't worry be happy
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horza
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 14:02 |
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Zac M
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 14:03 |
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty
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Crimsoner
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 14:31 |
It's a matter of fact that people can change opinions. In fact, in this kind of music which can evolve and grew up in us in a "special way"... it makes us to have an opinion in a specific period of time, and then it changes cuz my perception, thoughts, etc, have changed (according to the music)... you know...
So, i think the best way (if a system which we cannot change our ratings is not available) in rating music... is to be conscious of what we are doing, which means not to rate one album after listening to it the first time or even... within one month, you know.... the music has to grow on us... and then we can feel prepared to give a objective opinion about it... which i know is difficult, but we cannot be THAT subjective and give 5 stars to an album we love and we are conscious that it has has its failures. As the warning that appears when we wanna rate an album either with 1 or 5 stars... we have to be aware of an album we love can have some falures and the other way... when we rate an album with 1 star, we have to be aware that maybe it could have something good...
Well... If the "changing rates" is developt , i think it has to have a limit... for instance: We are able to change our rate for an album just one time.
Bye
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