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MikeEnRegalia 
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 Posted: September 13 2005 at 13:53 |
 oliverstoned wrote:
yes! the tube sound adds matter, weight, softness, precense, richness and fineness, etc...
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Yes ... the tube ADDS something to the sound. And that is what annoys some people. There are purists who want an extremely linear amp. But I'm not one of them ...
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 14:03 |
Yes, but they loose music by thinking like that.
I've heard very high end systems without tube...it's a joke compared to a little system with tube, in term of musicality.And only music matters. You hear much more things with the tube !
A very big system without tubes in the highs is a joke!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 14:05 |
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I'd like to hear Devin Townsend - Terria on a big tube amp ...
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 14:06 |
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Like the one up i found, featuring a Pass labs solid state amp in the middle.
Here's the man's setup (all is not bad):
Pass Labs X-350 Power Amp
Martin Logan Prodigy Speaker System
Threshold T-2 Pre amp
PS Audio Lamda II Special CD Transport
PS Audio Ultra Link II D/A Converter
Chang Lightspeed CLS 6400 Powerline filtering
Monster Sigma II Speaker cabling
Cardas Cross interconnect cabling
Room Tunes wall treatment
Goldmund cones
Shakti Stones
(2) separate dedicated AC lines
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 14:07 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I'd like to hear Devin Townsend - Terria on a big tube amp ... |
It's the only prog album you think about?
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 14:09 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
oliverstoned wrote:
yes! the tube sound adds matter, weight, softness, precense, richness and fineness, etc... |
Yes ... the tube ADDS something to the sound. And that is what annoys some people. There are purists who want an extremely linear amp. But I'm not one of them ... |
It adds someting to the sound, COMPARED to the harshnes and dryness of a solid state.
But it's closer to the real sound than the tube amp.
It's more natural. It adds less than what transistor remove 
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 14:11 |
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Note that the guy who owns the big system up uses separated electric lines...i confirm it's essential.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 14:41 |
oliverstoned wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I'd like to hear Devin Townsend - Terria on a big tube amp ... |
It's the only prog album you think about? |
Of course not ... but it has an extremely good production and would profit from a really good HiFi system ...
Another good one would be the special edition of Frank Zappa - One Size Fits All (gold disc).
Or the album I'm listening to now - Mike Keneally & Metropole Orkest - The Universe Will Provide.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 14:56 |
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I don't know the Zappa gold version.
"One size fits all" features a fantastic piece which reminds of "Uncle meat".
Anyway, Zappa is very impressive for sound. "Wakajawaka" and "Gran wazoo" are very impressive on vynil.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 15:01 |
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^ must be either Inca Roads or Andy.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 15:05 |
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Yes, Inca roads i think. Exellent guitar i remember.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 15:07 |
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I'm listening to it right now ... amazing.
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 15:13 |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 15:38 |
You should try this one, if you like Zappa-esque music. Recorded last year with a big orchestra. Superb recording quality.
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 15:59 |
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...looked the album's chronicle on Allmusic. Sounds too nice to be true. Especially for a current album.
Is it really good?
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 19:06 |
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Mike, no wonder you posted in another thread that you don't need
anything but your vox amp to play. You failed to mention the effects
foot panel that comes with it. Impressive looking rig.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 14 2005 at 02:25 |
oliver: the album is amazing. A perfect combination of Avant-Garde Zappa inspired Jazz Fusion free style music with a big orchestra.
cobb: The foot panel is in fact all there is ... there are no speakers. The floorboard contains an amp and speaker simulation, that's what the tube is for - unlike devices like the POD XT, the Vox TobeLab really contains the same circuitry like a big tube amp, just with lower voltages and simulated speakers.
It really sounds amazing.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 14 2005 at 02:26 |
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Does it sounds 70's?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 14 2005 at 02:31 |
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Does it sounds 70's? |
 How do the 70's sound like? I think that when listening to the album you would have a hard time guessing when it was recorded. Timeless, if you ask me.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 14 2005 at 02:33 |
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Good!
i've ordered it on Amazon, after reading the Allmusic chronicle! it sounds great!
Ho wdo you discovered it?
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