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TheProgtologist ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
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Euphoria Morning is an awesome and extremely underrated album. |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21605 |
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^ yes ... and unfortunately also not exactly prog. An underrated alternative rock gem.
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boo boo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 905 |
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Agreed, i personaly find zeppelin more progressive than deep purple even though thats just me. |
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Kubla Khan ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: May 29 2005 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 75 |
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anotherbrick ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 14 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 108 |
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Led Zeppelin = Not Prog I love Led Zeppelin, but ya have to draw the line somewhere |
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PROGMAN ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 03 2004 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 2664 |
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We need another prog genre to file them in the Archives! What about Progressive Blues/Guitar Rock. |
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thrang theng ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: September 09 2005 Status: Offline Points: 74 |
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It is the fourth topic about prog- no prog- proto prog- some prog related groups where I actively participate with my modest opinion. I think that above the consideration due to bands who really deservs our respect for the contribution they gave to music, such as Led Zeppelin or Deep Purple I consider the following: they are groups which evolved and developed their own language outside the Prog music. They were ricognised in their times as hard rock- heavy rock - blues rock etc.etc but not as prog. It is misleading to include them into the PROG Archive. Somewhere else some of you fellows stated this could be called ROCK Archive, but is not Sorry I don't credit it because I don't remember which thread was, but I agree. We are talking about prog.Please Discriminate it. There are good great bands which plays Blues Rock, Metal, Jazz, Fusion. We like them we love them. But here we talk about prog. It is a site which aim is stated as PROG ARCHIVES intends to be the most complete and powerful progressive rock resource As a resource it is meant to be a guide for who, like me and you loves this gendre. It is a way to know other bands, other music related to PROG. If we go on including everything we like it will become a MUSIC ENCYCOLPEDIA. Fine if the aim of the site is this, than change it. What I mean is just responsability of all of us to recognise the consistent PROGGines of a group and then propose and include it. Traces of PROG doesn't mean is a PROG group. Otherwise let's include all: for Time changes Soundgarden and System of a Down, Classical interpretations unusual instruments Apocaliptyca, In concert with Orchestra Metallica etc.etc. By the way I like all the music from those bands and I grown with Led Zep, it is just a matter that this is a PROG site. Again is my point of seeing. A related provocation: What do you think of John Paul Jones solo career? Is it ZOOMA a prog related album? I like it, is from DMG (Mr. Fripp's label) it features Trey Gunn on one track, it has strange sounds on two tracks, it features weird time signatures (listen to the closing track) it is all instrumental, I saw them on tour and they played on an unusual trio configuration (Drums, 10strings bass and Stick) Friendly yours
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Take my fire
Take my food and water Forget about those promises Of social good and social order... |
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The Wizard ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7341 |
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I guess I was wrong about Zep and I admit, they had some prog songs, but a few sons isn't enough to get the band added. For the most part they were a very instumentally tight blues rock band.
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jj1414 ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Status: Offline Points: 85 |
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Zep deserves to be there! Bump, to this thread!
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Bryan ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 01 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3013 |
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To me they're exactly the type of band the prog-related section was invented for...
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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A firm no to anything except maybe prog-related. I don't think they had any significant influence on prog at all.
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S Lang ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 01 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 441 |
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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I found this quote here in this thread, it's from our chief Max:
"Led Zep won't be accepted ,
but THE BEATLES -- Yes (with special mention why they should be...) ! ![]() My conclusion: "Democracy rules here on Prog Archives ...
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Of course Led Zeppelin belongs in the archives. Not even a matter of discussion. End.
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S Lang ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 01 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 441 |
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This is no longer Prog with Queen, Talk Talk, blah, blah, blah, this is becoming of a farce !
(Tony R. For my sincere opinions/observations in the past I now find myself no longer a Special Collaborator, but a Prog Reviewer instead. I expect another pulling up, but the Archives are not living up to what's expected these days. It now seems like a vehicle for a handful of opinionated individuals, with the rest of contributors are only being used for, or against justification. Not pretty.)
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S Lang ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 01 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 441 |
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Further to that, I'd like to see the inclusion of Led Zeppelin, Free, Bad Company, Paul Rodgers, John McLaughlin, Miles Davis - and for Heaven's sake - Jimi Hendrix, along with Cream and others resisted.
Progressive is not a word to be hijacked for a personal interpretation, it was a MOVEMENT, not a style back then in the early '70's!
Many contributing to the Archives weren't even born at the time when I was having untold pleasure at listening to Progressive Music, something that's resisted here.
(Besides, Robert Plant's use of his voice alone would qualify the band!) Edited by S Lang - July 14 2006 at 05:14 |
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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The native North-American indian would say about this topic and the PA policy: "White man speaks with two tongues!" ..
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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Why the hell are you bringing democracy into this? Who says that there needs to be as democracy? Now that would be a mistake! |
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Sorry Snowdog, I am from the wrong planet ...
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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Not at all Erik. I know you have had problems writing Bios etc, only to find bands you are working on being added without your knowledge and I truly sympathise. But at no time can I see that there has been any intention of democracy here. No one has ever claimed it to be a democracy! |
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