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Points: 21149 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2005 at 13:53

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

yes! the tube sound adds matter, weight, softness, precense, richness and fineness, etc...


Yes ... the tube ADDS something to the sound. And that is what annoys some people. There are purists who want an extremely linear amp. But I'm not one of them ...
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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2005 at 14:03
Yes, but they loose music by thinking like that.
I've heard very high end systems without tube...it's a joke compared to a little system with tube, in term of musicality.And only music matters. You hear much more things with the tube !
A very big system without tubes in the highs is a joke!



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I'd like to hear Devin Townsend - Terria on a big tube amp ...
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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2005 at 14:06
Like the one up i found, featuring a Pass labs solid state amp in the middle.

Here's the man's setup (all is not bad):

Pass Labs X-350 Power Amp

Martin Logan Prodigy Speaker System

Threshold T-2 Pre amp

PS Audio Lamda II Special CD Transport

PS Audio Ultra Link II D/A Converter

Chang Lightspeed CLS 6400 Powerline filtering

Monster Sigma II Speaker cabling

Cardas Cross interconnect cabling

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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2005 at 14:07
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I'd like to hear Devin Townsend - Terria on a big tube amp ...


It's the only prog album you think about?
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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2005 at 14:09
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

yes! the tube sound adds matter, weight, softness, precense, richness and fineness, etc...


Yes ... the tube ADDS something to the sound. And that is what annoys some people. There are purists who want an extremely linear amp. But I'm not one of them ...



It adds someting to the sound, COMPARED to the harshnes and dryness of a solid state.
But it's closer to the real sound than the tube amp.
It's more natural. It adds less than what transistor remove
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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2005 at 14:11
Note that the guy who owns the big system up uses separated electric lines...i confirm it's essential.
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Points: 21149 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2005 at 14:41

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I'd like to hear Devin Townsend - Terria on a big tube amp ...


It's the only prog album you think about?

Of course not ... but it has an extremely good production and would profit from a really good HiFi system ...

Another good one would be the special edition of Frank Zappa - One Size Fits All (gold disc).

Or the album I'm listening to now - Mike Keneally & Metropole Orkest - The Universe Will Provide.



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I don't know the Zappa gold version.
"One size fits all" features a fantastic piece which reminds of "Uncle meat".
Anyway, Zappa is very impressive for sound. "Wakajawaka" and "Gran wazoo" are very impressive on vynil.


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^ must be either Inca Roads or Andy.
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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2005 at 15:05
Yes, Inca roads i think. Exellent guitar i remember.
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I'm listening to it right now ... amazing.
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You should try this one, if you like Zappa-esque music. Recorded last year with a big orchestra. Superb recording quality.
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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2005 at 15:59
...looked the album's chronicle on Allmusic. Sounds too nice to be true. Especially for a current album.
Is it really good?
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Points: 1149 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2005 at 19:06
Mike, no wonder you posted in another thread that you don't need anything but your vox amp to play. You failed to mention the effects foot panel that comes with it. Impressive looking rig.
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oliver: the album is amazing. A perfect combination of Avant-Garde Zappa inspired Jazz Fusion free style music with a big orchestra.

cobb: The foot panel is in fact all there is ... there are no speakers. The floorboard contains an amp and speaker simulation, that's what the tube is for - unlike devices like the POD XT, the Vox TobeLab really contains the same circuitry like a big tube amp, just with lower voltages and simulated speakers.

It really sounds amazing.

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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2005 at 02:26
Does it sounds 70's?
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Points: 21149 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2005 at 02:31

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Does it sounds 70's?

 How do the 70's sound like? I think that when listening to the album you would have a hard time guessing when it was recorded. Timeless, if you ask me. 
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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2005 at 02:33
Good!
i've ordered it on Amazon, after reading the Allmusic chronicle! it sounds great!
Ho wdo you discovered it?
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