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Topic: The official Euro 04 thread Posted: June 15 2004 at 06:21 |
Hi,
We discussed a lot in the Main Discussion Forum and that's maybe not the right place...Yet nobody complained but I think it's better to have the discussion here...
So today there's the great game Germany - Netherlands (or Holland). Here in germany nearly EVERYONE is really excited about it...even people normally disliking football or people that aren't interested so much. There are big TV screens in nearly every City where people gather to watch the game. Every pub is brimfull.
It won't be easy to beat Holland because they have so many stars and they have the possibility to let Roy Makaay on the bench, such a genuis striker is just No. 3 or 4 because they have better ones. The german team is so young, we play with lots of young talents like Lukas Podolski (Monaco wants him), Phillip Lahm (He played so good in the Champions League), Kevin Kuranyi, Fabian Ernst, Sebastian Schweinsteiger just to name a few.
But as we all know, Germany is a championchip team. The play very bad in nearly every friendly match but when it comes to a world championchip they're in top form, just like it was in Japan/South Korea 2 years ago.
Yes I was very disappionted by Italy...such a good team plays such a crap...I think that their manager is the one to blame. Italy HAS to play offensive, it's not the team for playing in the defence all the time.
But now I'm very excited because of our game this evening..mybe I'll watch it in Frankfurt on a big screen with many other people...or I will watch with friends at home, with some beers we will see...
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will
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Posted: June 15 2004 at 07:12 |
Im glad to see a Euro 2004 thread
Germany never seem to have alot of world class players but they always seem to do well, why is this?? Germany are one of my personal favourites to win euro 04. I agree that Italys manager is probably the reason behind there lack of success, with there line up what else could be the problem?! I was on the verge of being devastated when zidane scored the penalty against England to make the game 2v1. Ahh well hopefully England will have more luck in there next matches.
I look forward to todays matches .   ; P.S 5v1
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Posted: June 15 2004 at 07:35 |
will wrote:
Im glad to see a Euro 2004 thread
Germany never seem to have alot of world class players but they always seem to do well, why is this?? Germany are one of my personal favourites to win euro 04. I agree that Italys manager is probably the reason behind there lack of success, with there line up what else could be the problem?! I was on the verge of being devastated when zidane scored the penalty against England to make the game 2v1. Ahh well hopefully England will have more luck in there next matches.
I look forward to todays matches .   ; ; P.S 5v1
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You're totally right...we don't have such "world-class" players...maybe Oliver Kahn and Michael Ballack but the rest is not so well known...Hamann plays in the Premier League and is one of Liverpools most important players...but that's it...
I think that germany always has a good TEAM. You know, you can have 11 good world class players but they are no use if they only play for their own if they don't form a good team and work hard for each other...I think that's what marked the german team 2 years ago...in the world cup...
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Posted: June 15 2004 at 08:35 |
You hit the nail on the head there, Diddy - the word "TEAM" makes all the difference.
My prediction for tonight is a close 3-2 to Germany, with the first two German goals coming in the first 10 minutes of either half, then a belter towards the end to break the tie.
I think Holland will equalise just before half time, then score a quick retalliation to the second German goal.
Should be a great match!
Any other predictions?
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Posted: June 15 2004 at 09:11 |
Certif1ed wrote:
You hit the nail on the head there, Diddy - the word "TEAM" makes all the difference.
My prediction for tonight is a close 3-2 to Germany, with the first two German goals coming in the first 10 minutes of either half, then a belter towards the end to break the tie.
I think Holland will equalise just before half time, then score a quick retalliation to the second German goal.
Should be a great match!
Any other predictions?
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Yes, I fear that we will loose...I have the strange feeling that we will...
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Posted: June 15 2004 at 11:19 |
I'd say good luck to Germany but as there are members form both countyrs on this forum i dont want to be bias. I will post my view on the macth after it has finished, I would be interested to hear your views aswell.
Lets just hope its an exciteing match with plenty of goals
P.S. I think that the most important thing to any team is that the players work well as a team, but i suppose brazil ruin that theory
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Posted: June 15 2004 at 11:41 |
will wrote:
P.S. I think that the most important thing to any team is that the players work well as a team, but i suppose brazil ruin that theory |
No, they don't necessarily. Just take a look at Real Madrid. The best team in the world, they now have the best team EVER, you can't have better players. I think Madrid is better than Brazil, if you can compare them at all, but Madrid just made 4th place in their league, how disappointing...If you have all those players, you normaly HAVE to win the league AND the championsleague...if you just look on who plays there you have to expect them to beat eery team with 5 goals...BUT they didn't...
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Posted: June 15 2004 at 12:55 |
WOW
Half Time:
Latvia - Czech Republic 1:0
Alone reaching the final round in Portugal was the best thing Latvia EVER reached...and now they took the lead against a TOP FAVORITE!
Just imagine, most of the guys even have other jobs because they can't make living with football alone in their country...just the stiker plays for Dynamo Kiew, all others are NOBODIES...
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Posted: June 15 2004 at 17:04 |
Germany v Holland : 1 - 1
Well it looked as if the two teams were trying to make my prediction come true in the first half - even if Holland did try to get an early look in!
Germany threatened the goal from about the 11th minute until that sucker went in - but what a scrap!
That referee was useless - always in the way unless fouls were being committed, and there were so many he missed most of them - just the token yellow cards liberally doled out!
Great comedy!!
Czech Republic v Latvia : 1 - 2
Those Latvians are sooo fast! Great to see them keep their advantage - and great goal from Heinz!
Must go out and replenish the fridge...
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Posted: June 15 2004 at 17:21 |
What a game...I aged a lot during this 90 minutes.
But what a mistake that led to the equalizer, you can't loose the ball like this in the corner.
The referee HAD to give a penalty, Stam hit Kuranyi on the HEAD, that wasn't nice
But I think that this game was the best/most exciting so far. Both Teams were superb, not like France, they were really bad at times.
But hey, have you seen those 20 and 19 year old Schweinsteiger and Lahm? They are so good especially Schweinsteiger (The blond guy that came in for Frings)
A good game...Sure the Equalizer was painful, but 1:1 against Holland, hey it's not that bad...
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Posted: June 15 2004 at 18:18 |
diddy wrote:
What a game...I aged a lot during this 90 minutes.
But what a mistake that led to the equalizer, you can't loose the ball like this in the corner.
The referee HAD to give a penalty, Stam hit Kuranyi on the HEAD, that wasn't nice
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I think it was an accident.. he didn't do it on purpse, but he was not very careful on the other hand.
What a crappy game. Germany was a little better than Holland I think... what a waste of time! Why don't they play some music instead?
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Posted: June 15 2004 at 18:22 |
I don't think that it was a waste of time...it was a good game, the Italy game was waste of time...
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Posted: June 16 2004 at 02:42 |
I watch the games with the sound turned down and some music playing on my hi-fi. The ITV games have particularly crappy commentary - and if you pick the music right it enhances the game no end. The only thing you miss out on is crowd noise - but in my opinion the English crowds make the best noise!
I was listening to "Live at the Target" by Twelfth Night for the first half, and "Live and let Live" for the second half.
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Posted: June 16 2004 at 05:57 |
Certif1ed wrote:
but in my opinion the English crowds make the best noise! |
I don't think that the english crowd makes the best noise...we have an expression that describes the whole english menality refering to support: "You only sing when you're winning" I think england was good before the Euro 96. After this championchip everything is forbidden and your stadiums are "all-seater". When the team plays good all people are singing but your mentality is wrong, you have to sing and support them even if they seem to loose...
I think the german supporters done well yesterday...you could see it a few times (they were located in the back of the camera angel so you could'd see them all the time) ALL where standing and supporting, noone was sitting, awesome...I had goosebumps some times because they where really loud AND they did the obligatory "anthem" between two tribunes
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Posted: June 16 2004 at 15:21 |
The meant that I was only saying that because I'm English - I totally agree otherwise! It's the sheer quality (or familiarity, more like) of our songs that makes me turn the sound back up.
The English do tend to only sing when they're winning - we've made football chants out of it that go "You're not singing any more", when our team gets one up on a rival, and "You're going home in a Saint John's Ambulance" by way of traditional response.
Other English classics include;
"We hate Tottenham and we hate Tottenham, We hate Tottenham and we hate Tottenham, We hate Tottenham and we hate Tottenham, We are the Tottenham haters"
I'm really not too sure what the lyricist was trying to say when he wrote those, but my observation is that the theme of hating Tottenham runs quite strongly...
And who could forget;
"We love you Chelsea, we do, We love you Chelsea, we do, We love you Chelsea, we do, Oh Chelsea we love you."
And, of course, the ubiquitous
"What the fing, What the fing, What the fing hell was that? (hell was that?) What the fing hell was that?"
Sheer bloody poetry! (set to “Cwm Rhondda,” John Hughes, 1907).
Yes, the English football chant is a joy to behold - so much so that Pink Floyd set one to music in "Fearless" (Meddle); Can anyone who does not live in the U.K. name the song - and for bonus points, the composer(s) and original source (what the song was written for)? Additional bonus if you can tell me which team it is associated with!
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Posted: June 18 2004 at 06:32 |
Wayne's World
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Party time
Excellent!!!
Actually, the only excellent thing about the England v Switzerland game was the score. What a bag of spanners!!!
I hope we're as lucky against Croatia - coz that's all it was, IMO!
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Posted: June 18 2004 at 10:01 |
Yeah, 3:0 BUT I think the result was too high...they played awful I was sleeping in front of the TV because they played so minimalistic...
The goalkeeper of Switzerland playes in the german Bundesliga and he's one of the funniest guys and really nice. I think the second Rooney goal was a bit lucky: after a great safe the ball hit the post and the back of his head, bad luck...
Tomorrow is our second game, I'm excited, we will see. I think the most important thing in our group will be to score more goals against Latvia than the others...Netherlands, Germany and Czech Republic, 3 very good teams and some how all 3 are favorites for the cup...but only 2 will make it to the quarter finals...
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Posted: June 18 2004 at 15:37 |
DENMARK BULGARIA 2 -0
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Posted: June 20 2004 at 09:06 |
AAAHHHHH...
Oh no, my two passions are meeting and hamper each other, NOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo...
But my first YES show outranks a football game (at least an international match)
BTW Holland - Czech Republic yesterday was the best game so far, what a match...
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Posted: June 20 2004 at 17:23 |
diddy wrote:
BTW Holland - Czech Republic yesterday was the best game so far, what a match...
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Although the 2nd half of tonight's Spain vs Portugal was a belter!!! I'm amazed that Portugal kept their 1-0 advantage and knocked Spain out of the tournament!
Incredible stuff - and great football!
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