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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 11:09
Lets pretend your mate across the road has some great music and he invites you to have a look.You see some you fancy.He says borrow what you like and tape/record it and I will check out your collection.THIS is file sharing basically taken to the global village level and YOU are all my mates
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 11:08
"I don't have the money so it's ok to steal them". It's sad that this attitude is so common among young people (those who grew up with the internet).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 11:05
i buy cds, but i also download, because being aschoolboy i dont have the money to f**king fuel the amount of music i listen to, if you care to buy them for me so i wont download then be my guest, prog is supported through concerts and other merchandise as well as cds. If you want to put yourself on a level above us "criminals", then thats all you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 11:00
I download to discover new music/artists. Once I like what I hear I usually puchase the cds and then get rid of the downloads. It's a form of research.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:58

It's one thing to download mp3's that bands put up for people to check them out. It's a completely different matter to take files that others have posted and share them for free with the rest of the world.

Just realize that your actions will have reactions, and you might not like what happens down the road.

If you really love prog, you'll support it, help it to thrive, musicians need money. When musicians don't get money they become waiters, landscapers, used car salesmen. Anybody wanna buy the new DVD of Arthur Brown painting the side of a house?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:58
I use Limewire but i will try out Soulseek. I don't want to deprive musicians of money but i find record companies stance on all this a bit hypocritical.Sony,for example,sell/sold the walkman in all its guises.What were we meant to be recording??Spoken word?? I'm sorry but I refuse to accept that dabbling in P2P to make informed choices re a band i don't really know,thats not bad is it?? I also like to own original CD's for the liner notes etc etc so i still buy original product.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:50
Originally posted by samhob samhob wrote:

Theres a lot of albums i own in mp3 only , i usually buy records but there a lot of things i can't find in my place ... So emule is sometimes the solution for me...

You don't OWN these mp3s, you didn't pay for them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:48

I agree with almost everyone here + I download lots of files every month, because I think it's a cheaper and faster way to discover new bands, or to get a preview of "that new release" you've been pondering whether it might suck or not.

Although I must add... nothing beats the thrill of listening thoroughly for the first time to a prog album, and actually falling in love at "first-hearing".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:39

ok, well in that case gabbel, i promise to only download well known people that my downloading will not really affect

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:32

Well, when you buy a CD from an indie band off of their website who do you think gets the money? I'm not talking about King Crimson or Yes or Rush. Lesser known bands that many of you like depend on fan support to keep prog'in on. If anything, you should buy multiple copies of their CD's and give them to all you friends for birthdays or christmas. 

Some of you may be musicians, some of you may get into a band, some of your bands may work hard enough and invest enough money to make an album and put out a CD. At that point you'll want to sell the cd's, then you'll understand.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:31

Theres a lot of albums i own in mp3 only , i usually buy records but there a lot of things i can't find in my place ... So emule is sometimes the solution for me...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:31

i agree, the artists dont see it all, AND we're not talking about everyone as a whole, we're talking about the individual, just because they outlawed stealing, doesnt mean there arent going to be people that steal whether you think its right or not, if im against downloading, then im against downloading, its not oging to stop a huge group of people from doing it, so as an individual it doesnt make much of a difference.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:23
Originally posted by gabbel ratchett gabbel ratchett wrote:

Originally posted by jiggajake jiggajake wrote:

Originally posted by gabbel ratchett gabbel ratchett wrote:

and when your favorite indie bands quit making new albums because they can't recover their production costs I'll bet you'll wonder why.

if its that far off, then i doubt the 10-15 bucks would not have saved them.

10 bucks x 1000 downloads or file shares = $10,000.00, thats not chump change kids.



If a band got ten bucks (as opposed to ten cents) for every album of theirs I bought, I'd be a lot more willing to blind-buy albums that I'm not sure about.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:21
Originally posted by jiggajake jiggajake wrote:

Originally posted by gabbel ratchett gabbel ratchett wrote:

and when your favorite indie bands quit making new albums because they can't recover their production costs I'll bet you'll wonder why.

if its that far off, then i doubt the 10-15 bucks would not have saved them.

10 bucks x 1000 downloads or file shares = $10,000.00, thats not chump change kids.

dead things don't talk too well, they've got a shaky sense of diction.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:16

Originally posted by gabbel ratchett gabbel ratchett wrote:

and when your favorite indie bands quit making new albums because they can't recover their production costs I'll bet you'll wonder why.

if its that far off, then i doubt the 10-15 bucks would not have saved them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:15

 

sometimes downloading is the only way to get any recordings of rare band, impossible to obtain even through specialized stores.

I love original CDs too.

yet you still have time!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:10

www.last.fm saves a lot of downloading trouble, it's particularly good for finding similar artists.

Why use illegal p2p filesharing when you can listen to the music for free?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:08
and when your favorite indie bands quit making new albums because they can't recover their production costs I'll bet you'll wonder why.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:00
i  agree soulseek is awesome, so is DC++, i think we shouold have a download section on the website, where we can post yousendit links or megaupload links and put the cds in rar files, then we can share them with all of our friends on the site.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 09:32
As a Mac user I have Limewire. Not too bad
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