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Points: 21206 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2005 at 07:57
Originally posted by hotbelly hotbelly wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I prefer Avantasia ... I don't like Kursch's vocals. I think they are even more an aquired taste than James LaBrie ...

Avantasia!  They are so bland and generic! How can they even compare to either D&W or BG?

To each his own though, don't mean to laugh at your tastes :)

Feel free to laugh at me - I laugh at D&W and Iced Age.
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Blind Guardian's "A Night at the Opera" is probably the great power metal album ever created. And it's clearly influenced by Progressive Music, specially the Epic "And then there was silence" Recommended for Everyone.
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Originally posted by Minstrel X Minstrel X wrote:

Blind Guardian's "A Night at the Opera" is probably the great power metal album ever created. And it's clearly influenced by Progressive Music, specially the Epic "And then there was silence" Recommended for Everyone.

It's symphonic epic metal - unfortunately not very progressive. It's really just a clever combination of classical songwriting and composition/arrangement and power metal. I like it very much, but it doesn't have anything to do with PROG.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Minstrel X Minstrel X wrote:

Blind Guardian's "A Night at the Opera" is probably the great power metal album ever created. And it's clearly influenced by Progressive Music, specially the Epic "And then there was silence" Recommended for Everyone.

It's symphonic epic metal - unfortunately not very progressive. It's really just a clever combination of classical songwriting and composition/arrangement and power metal. I like it very much, but it doesn't have anything to do with PROG.

Who cares? It kicks my ass

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To be exactly BG were speed metal at the very beginning then evoluted into power and now they are...better! A night at the opera was not what I was expecting to whe I heard they were comming with a new cd. But well I like it. BG are great...let's see the new album with new drummer...

D&W is not my band...they have really good songs but some others... :S
And FROM IE I like one or two songs, I dont use to like american power metal (well I love Kamelot (the singer is european) :D

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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Minstrel X Minstrel X wrote:

Blind Guardian's "A Night at the Opera" is probably the great power metal album ever created. And it's clearly influenced by Progressive Music, specially the Epic "And then there was silence" Recommended for Everyone.

It's symphonic epic metal - unfortunately not very progressive. It's really just a clever combination of classical songwriting and composition/arrangement and power metal. I like it very much, but it doesn't have anything to do with PROG.

Who cares? It kicks my ass

I don't. I love it ... but I think that Nightfall in Middle-Earth is slightly better.
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I'd say BG are by far the closest to prog out of any of the popular power metal groups I've heard. Doesn't stop them being incredibly cheesey though  (OK, OK, I still like them. I guess there's a bit of D&D in me after all eh? )
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Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

I'd say BG are by far the closest to prog out of any of the popular power metal groups I've heard. Doesn't stop them being incredibly cheesey though  (OK, OK, I still like them. I guess there's a bit of D&D in me after all eh? )

Hey, at least they base their music upon a sane story (Silmarillion) rather than inventing cheesy stories about unicorns, magic dragons and emerald swords.
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Early BG i actually do dig, but the more recent stuff

I'm not really a fan of Hansi's vocals either, but i find them quite listenable on the early stuff. I don't understand al the fuss about A Night At The Opera. I've heard the entire thing at least twice and i find it to be one of the most boring albums i've ever heard.

Has anybody heard the old drummer's new band? I haven't heard a lot, but from what i have heard they sound exactly like BG.
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Being a Tolkien fan (of the serious, scholarly type, I hasten to add) I obviously know about BG, and many of my friends adore them. Unfortunately, I don't - I just managed to get halfway through Nightfall... before turning the CD player off in disgust. As to A Night at the Opera, I only got to the opening song, which was not bad but rather heavy going, with all those multilayered vocal harmonies and somewhat confused structure. Kursch's voice is one of the problems, but not the only one. I don't like Rhapsody either (though they're my fellow countrymen, but then I'm not patriotic at all). I'd very much rather listen to DT, even with LaBrie's vocals.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

I'd say BG are by far the closest to prog out of any of the popular power metal groups I've heard. Doesn't stop them being incredibly cheesey though  (OK, OK, I still like them. I guess there's a bit of D&D in me after all eh? )

Hey, at least they base their music upon a sane story (Silmarillion) rather than inventing cheesy stories about unicorns, magic dragons and emerald swords.



C'mon Rhapsody is not THAT bad... sure, they aren't prog but the first 2 cds are one of the best in Power Metal history... even with the cheesy lyrics

Anyway BG... Nightfall in Middle Earth is a good album, haven't listened A Night in the Opera so... I don't know what to think about the new BG and now with their drummer gone.
And I like Hansi's voice more than Labrie's more agressive XD
I'm not antisocial, I just don't like wasting my breath...
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Points: 21206 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2005 at 18:51
Originally posted by R.Darkmoon R.Darkmoon wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

I'd say BG are by far the closest to prog out of any of the popular power metal groups I've heard. Doesn't stop them being incredibly cheesey though  (OK, OK, I still like them. I guess there's a bit of D&D in me after all eh? )

Hey, at least they base their music upon a sane story (Silmarillion) rather than inventing cheesy stories about unicorns, magic dragons and emerald swords.



C'mon Rhapsody is not THAT bad... sure, they aren't prog but the first 2 cds are one of the best in Power Metal history... even with the cheesy lyrics

Anyway BG... Nightfall in Middle Earth is a good album, haven't listened A Night in the Opera so... I don't know what to think about the new BG and now with their drummer gone.
And I like Hansi's voice more than Labrie's more agressive XD

I like Rhapsody very much ... but I also admit that they're cheesy. I have no problem with liking cheese.
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Points: 117 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:03
Then we are 2 happy Rhapsody fans  Bring the cheese!!
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I have all their albums ... they're all good, and the first two are indeed the best. Dawn of Victory is also very good, Power of the Dragonflame is a bit weaker, and Symphony 2 is quite good, but here the cheese factor is like 10 times higher. Christopher Lee is quite ok, but the other narrator and the lyrics ...
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Points: 117 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:15
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I have all their albums ... they're all good, and the first two are indeed the best. Dawn of Victory is also very good, Power of the Dragonflame is a bit weaker, and Symphony 2 is quite good, but here the cheese factor is like 10 times higher. Christopher Lee is quite ok, but the other narrator and the lyrics ...


The other narrator made laugh it his screams "Oh, God!!! No!! It's happening!!!"
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Points: 21206 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:21

"And so the Order of the White Dragon decreed Khaas the hero of the middle lands. He and princess Lothen from the kingdom of the ancient waterfalls,
together with Tharish, elven king of the caverns and myself, Iras Algor from Hor-Lad, would travel the path of incredible danger and great adventure.
Dargor the shadowlord would lead us through the ancient underworld of Dar-Kunor. Finally the time had come to find the legendary seventh black book, that
containing the worst of all the known prophecies"

"NAIRA... ORIEL...TARNA...
Majestic winds of the northlands...
protect our heroes from the deadly Naroth...
cover their tracks with snow...
Rage on with all your fury...
NAIRA... TARNA... ORIEL-NIRNAAN..."

I wonder who invented all those words and names ... Tolkien was a linguist, the elven language and all the words and labels from the Silmarillion make sense. The words in the Rhapsody lyrics are just nonsense.

Like I said above: I like it. But I often find myself imagining how much better Rhapsody could be with sane lyrics and WITHOUT the italian accent ...
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Points: 16451 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:25
Yea, I agree. Rhapsody sounds so god-damn fun to listen to :)
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I wonder who invented all those words and names ... Tolkien was a linguist, the elven language and all the words and labels from the Silmarillion make sense. The words in the Rhapsody lyrics are just nonsense.

Like I said above: I like it. But I often find myself imagining how much better Rhapsody could be with sane lyrics and WITHOUT the italian accent ...



All come from the not-so sane mind of Luca Turilli! if you like more lyrics like those listen to his solo band
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Originally posted by Reverie Reverie wrote:

Has anybody heard the old drummer's new band? I haven't heard a lot, but from what i have heard they sound exactly like BG.



The group is savage cirvus, i've listened to the cd a couple of times. Its not bad, but its not Blind Guardian, of course. Thomen Stauch is a very good drummer, but it seems he doenst like the new direction o BG. Saage Circus is more like BG in Imaginations on the other Side.

I like Rhapsody too. It's true that they're cheesy...ejem. Well I think I like more the 2nd Guitar (Luca Turilli) lp that the lastrhapsody's.

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