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Cesar Inca
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Posted: September 05 2004 at 12:31 |
I agree on that Gilmour's best guitar work is all around in the 'Animals' album.
Regarding Mr. Petrucci, I admire his technique, precision and warmth: I'm not sure he is pure technique and no feel, since I can't pretend to know his inner world as many anti-DT people seem to do. I mean, he's not a friend of mine, not even a neighbour - how am I supposed to know that behind all that technical display (which in some DT songs is played in a more subdued manner) THERE IS NOT some kind of emotional drive pushing him onwards? Once a guitarist gets a bit far more pyrotechnical than others, then here comes that arbitrary suspicion of "no feel".
Regards.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: September 05 2004 at 15:13 |
You are right of course Cesar. What I would say is that some guitarists sound more emotional than others. The sound of Andy Latimer of Camel's guitar work for example to me sounds emotional.
In what I admit is a sweeping generalisation, I don't find that Petricci's guitar work sounds like he is putting much emotion into it. I readily acknowledge however that I may well be completely misjudging him!
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Reed Lover
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Posted: September 05 2004 at 15:26 |
Yes but my point is that a lot of the newer guitar gods have got sucked into the Eddie Van Halen thing of speed is good,
My most emotive soloists:
1. Lifeson
2. Gilmour
3. Gary Moore
4.Carlos Santana
5.Michael Schenker (Rock Bottom live anyone?)
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Cesar Inca
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Posted: September 05 2004 at 16:21 |
"Yes but my point is that a lot of the newer guitar gods have got sucked into the Eddie Van Halen thing of speed is good"
Now I see your point more clearly, and I hope I'm more capable of understanding it. You're right at pinting out the dangers of excessive and gratuitious love for speed for the sake of it, but again, speed is not in itself an enemy of emotional pouring: I listen to Holdsworth and DiMeola, and I can tell you that these guys are really fast and skilfull, and at the same tiem, their lines and phrases are really moving.
Petrucci has done a lot of stuff that was emotional and pyrotechnical at the same time: his solos on 'Erotomania', 'Another Day', 'Misunderstood', 'Scarred', I find them really motivating on a personal level, as much as impressive from the merely technical point of view. At least that's how I feel about them.
Anyway, my vote went to Akkerman's amazing performance on 'Hocus Pocus': here comes another guitarist who is fast and emotional, sometimes simultaneously.
Alex Lifeson is another guitarist who is well crafted technically and capable of expressing and motivating pure emotion. Well, I could find lots of examples like them...
Regards.
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Andy Latimer
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Posted: September 05 2004 at 20:46 |
In respect of Hocus Pocus solo, I prefer the version that appears in Ship Of Memories, I don't know if somebody has said it.
Anyway, I prefer Confortably Numb solo, both, every chord is perfect and in his stead.
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Olympus
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Location: Australia
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Posted: August 24 2005 at 02:50 |
Clap! Clap !
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"Let's get the hell away from this Eerie-ass piece of work so we can get on with the rest of our eerie-ass day"
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fender101
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Posted: August 24 2005 at 04:51 |
I dont understand it I really think that Steve Howes solo on Starship Trooper is crap. He doesnt know where he is going. Its out of time and just doesnt mean anything. Its not melodic, not fast its just awkwerd, he could have done so much better considering the chord progression he was playin over was so "rock and roll"
IMO of course
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Raff
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Posted: August 24 2005 at 10:57 |
arcer wrote:
again not really prog but Richie Blackmore 's playing on the 'On Stage' version of 'Catch the Rainbow' is wonderful. |
Well done, Arcer! Blackmore is probably my all-time fave guitarist. As to Rainbow, I feel the first three studio albums and the live should be in the Archives under Prog-Metal... After all, how do you call an eight-minute track with a backing orchestra like Stargazer, if not prog?
Back to the list, I like all of the first three, but my vote went (of course) to Dave...
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chopper
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Posted: August 24 2005 at 11:25 |
There are loads of solos missing from this list. "Clap" is a solo guitar piece rather than a guitar solo.
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Retrovertigo
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Posted: August 24 2005 at 13:54 |
Frank Zappa: Inca Roads
Frank Zappa: Watermelon in Easter Hay
Larry LaLonde: Wynona's Big Brown Beaver
Buckethead: Buckethead (from the Colonel Claypool's Bucket of Bernie Brains album)
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rileydog22
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Posted: August 24 2005 at 19:54 |
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el böthy
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Posted: August 24 2005 at 22:03 |
from this ones I go with Hocus Pocus...but never with Confortably numb....nooooooooooooooooo, I hate that solo its tooooooo long and boring...and live??? Oh my God it just makes me want to shoot myself!!!!!
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Damen
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Posted: August 24 2005 at 22:16 |
Steve Howe definately gets my vote on this one.
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