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    Posted: May 28 2005 at 07:27

Ah well what is this guy doing? Calling Iron Maiden for a prog band? Now thats an insult!!!

 Yeah well but i do anyway because maiden have released concept albums alot of epic tracks, they have showed their abilty to compose in several diffrent generes, they can make up original and new sounding melodies, and i find their lyrics quite intelligent too. + They have inspired alot of prog metal bands. Anyways if you consider queensryche prog then you also consider maiden as prog... And perhaps everybody is going to disagree on me on this but i don't care because i am calling IRON MAIDEN THE BEST PROG METAL BAND IN THE WORLD...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 07:36
Blah what makes queensryche just so much more progressive than iron maiden?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 08:51
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

have released concept albums alot of epic tracks


This is the thing all metal listeners refer when they want to say metal is progressive.

This makes metal progressive? Yeah, right.

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they have showed their abilty to compose in several diffrent generes, they can make up original and new sounding melodies, and i find their lyrics quite intelligent too.


Yeah, right.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 08:59
Iron maiden a most fantastic NWOBHM band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 09:06

IMO Iron Maiden is THE METAL BAND!!

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:16
I see what you mean, they were inspied by many prog bands. I wouldnt call them progressive though
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:18
Heavy metal with some prog-inspired parts
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:21

^^^

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:22
Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

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Hey, welcome back!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:35
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Ah well what is this guy doing? Calling Iron Maiden for a prog band? Now thats an insult!!!

 Yeah well but i do anyway because maiden have released concept albums alot of epic tracks, they have showed their abilty to compose in several diffrent generes, they can make up original and new sounding melodies, and i find their lyrics quite intelligent too. + They have inspired alot of prog metal bands. Anyways if you consider queensryche prog then you also consider maiden as prog... And perhaps everybody is going to disagree on me on this but i don't care because i am calling IRON MAIDEN THE BEST PROG METAL BAND IN THE WORLD...

Yeah  At  last someone that thinks the as me as I do... Maiden is very progressive in some ways... Find me a NWOBHM band that has concept albums, epic, over 10 mins long tracks and INTELIGENT lyrics.. Also the Band was inspierd and isnpired many prog bands... They cant be locked up in one genre, becouse they use ideas from many other then hard'n'heavy... Oh, and btw, someone heard A TYRANNY OF SOULS?  Igot it 4 days ago and its great (Although "DEvil on a Hog is a boring). What do ya thinck of it? Is it in some way Progressive?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:38
Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

[QUOTE=maidenrulez]

 

 At  last someone that thinks the as me as I do...

Damn My english sucks hard!!! I should stard looking back before posting...

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:24

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

  Ah well what is this guy doing? Calling Iron Maiden for a prog band? Now thats an insult!!!

Yes.

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

 Yeah well but i do anyway because maiden have released concept albums alot of epic tracks,

It's not because you're doing 'epic' tracks you are prog...

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

they have showed their abilty to compose in several diffrent generes, they can make up original and new sounding melodies, and i find their lyrics quite intelligent too.
 

Several different genres?! I see one : METAL... Original and new sounding melidies? I see one kind: METAL... Lyrics intelligent? Aren't they the kind of band with I'm-gonna-kill-everyone-lyrics, like most f***ing metal bands? I think yes.

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

+ They have inspired alot of prog metal bands. Anyways if you consider queensryche prog then you also consider maiden as prog...

Ah the number of time I herd 'if you consider X to be prog, then why not Y?'. They might have inspired some prog metal (the reason why the word metal) but those bands also took inspiration in prog bands (the reason why thw word metal). But maiden NEVER took inspiration on a prog band...

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

And perhaps everybody is going to disagree on me on this but i don't care because i am calling IRON MAIDEN THE BEST PROG METAL BAND IN THE WORLD...

Everybody is going to disagree indeed. And that is quiet weird comming from a guy with a Dream Theater avatar. DT is progmetal. Iron maiden is metal. That's all.

It's not because you like a band that it's obviously a prog band...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 20:43

Well i wouldn’t define Iron Maiden as a prog band, althought their importance to the prog metal movement is huge if one considers some basic aspects of their discography:

 

- Length and construction of Songs: Most Maiden songs are quite big. The construction of themes goes from quiet and basic shapes to hard rocking stuff.

You can find good examples in “Rime of the Ancient Mariner” and “Sign of the Cross”;

 

- Concepts: Most Maiden albums seem to follow some kind of concept. In “Seventh Son of a Seventh Son” that take it farther, exploring a real solid concept;

 

- Artwork: Once you forget Eddy, you’ll find real good artwork in most albums.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:22
Originally posted by Borealis Borealis wrote:

Several different genres?! I see one : METAL... Original and new sounding melidies? I see one kind: METAL... Lyrics intelligent? Aren't they the kind of band with I'm-gonna-kill-everyone-lyrics, like most f***ing metal bands? I think yes.

Maiden don't write I'm-gonna-kill-everyone-lyrics,so don't lump them in with those kinds of bands.Murders in the Rue Morgue(Edgar Allen Poe),Ryme of the Ancient Mariner(Samuel Taylor Coleridge poem),The Trooper(Napoleanic Wars),Powerslave(ancient Egypt),Aces High(The British RAF and the Battle of Britain),Alexander The Great(figure that one out),Phantom of the Opera(again,figure that one out),Run to the Hills(The exploitation of the American Indians),Flight of Icarus(Greek mythology),To Tame a Land(Dune).

I don't consider Maiden prog,or even prog metal.They are a metal band with some proggy moments.But I grew up with them,was listening to their first album in 1980 when no one knew who the hell they were and they are a huge musical influence for me.You obviously don't like metal and are very biased in your opinion.Just by the statement of yours that I quoted above,you don't really know what you are talking about.The members of Maiden(especially Steve Harris)are highly intelligent,and probably more well read than you are.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:37

In what ways does Iron Maiden differ from Motely Crue, because I don't know a thing about either of them and always get them mixed up. Which one is better? Is Queensryche better than both of them? Which one does "She's Got the Looks That Kill"? Are they all considered "Hair Bands"? Please enlighten me.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:39
I'm gonna see their concert in Lisbon on June 16th
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2005 at 10:53
Originally posted by bluetailfly bluetailfly wrote:

In what ways does Iron Maiden differ from Motely Crue, because I don't know a thing about either of them and always get them mixed up. Which one is better? Is Queensryche better than both of them? Which one does "She's Got the Looks That Kill"? Are they all considered "Hair Bands"? Please enlighten me.

IM is probably THE heavy metal (not hair metal) band. They're a lot heavier, faster and more sophisticated than Motley Crue, although take that last comment with a pich of salt. They often start their songs slowly and go ballistic in the instrumental sections, although this is obviously not always the case. They don't really change much from album to album, although they can surprise with lyrical acoustic passages. And if you take them too seriously you will never enjoy them - their lyrics are extremely cheesy, but at the same time disarming. AND Bruce Dickinson has a fantastic voice!

My recommendations: "Seventh Son of the Seventh Son", "Fear of the Dark", "Brave New World".

 

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I'd recommend Killers,Piece of Mind and Powerslave


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2005 at 23:26
Iron Maiden Prog?

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