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Easy Livin 
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 Posted: August 03 2007 at 16:30 |
New memebrs are joining all the time. They will inevitably want to discuss things which have been talked about before. They face derision of they start a new thread on an old topic, so a catch 22 situation develops.
I think we need to be tolerant of old subjects being revived, it's only fair.
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Peter
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 09:54 |
 Sean Trane wrote:
Discussed many times before. Prog-related at best, and likely to open floodgates for tons of other bands.
Let's worry about Velvet Underground, first! |
This thread is over two years old. Why it was revived is beyond me.
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Dim
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Posted: August 02 2007 at 23:57 |
Great in the seventies
sucked in the eighties
prog in the... oh wait
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BroSpence
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Posted: August 02 2007 at 23:55 |
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Bowie is a man of many styles. While Rick Wakeman did play with him a few times, and he has some prog moments he wouldn't exactly fit in prog. He's messed with glam rock, blues rock, dance, electronica, industrial, and many other styles. I'd recommend getting the complete catalogue. He's a brilliant person and is not to be missed out on.
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Dean
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Posted: August 02 2007 at 09:09 |
Bowie deserves to be a Honorary Mention becuase he was/is one of the most influential artists of all time for every genre imaginable but he was also equally influenced by them - however we don't have a HM category. Prog-Related I think is tenous because he had PR songs, but not whole albums.
His pre Ziggy albums have definite Proto-Prog songs:
Space Oddity - for Memory of a Free Festival, Cygnet Committee and Wild-eyed Boy From Freecloud.
Man Who Sold The World - for Width Of A Circle, All The Madmen
Hunky Dory - for Life On Mars (a mini-prog epic) and The Bewley Brothers
...I would recommend any of those, together with Diamond Dogs (for the concept), Station to Station and Low (the better of the 3 Berlin albums)
Edited by darqdean - August 02 2007 at 09:10
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Sean Trane
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Posted: August 02 2007 at 05:23 |
Discussed many times before. Prog-related at best, and likely to open floodgates for tons of other bands.
Let's worry about Velvet Underground, first!
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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kingdhansak
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Posted: August 01 2007 at 16:35 |
Bowie is just brilliant.
Thr trick is to get any album that was originally released on the RCA label and you cant go wrong. My top 5 however would be...
1. Man who sold the world
2. Station to station
3. Scary monsters
4. Hunky Dory
5. Diamond Dogs
Seriously worth collecting all the 70's releases as no 2 albums are the same, enjoy!
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febus
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Joined: January 23 2007
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Posted: August 01 2007 at 12:31 |
His first 5 albums are great; hoW not to like ZIGGY SATARDUST and the ''crazy piano'' on ALLADIN SANE.
Not fan at all of ''young americans ''period.
Good, but not outstanding ''ENO '' period collaboration (low)
Forgetful 80s releases ( like a lot of 70s superstars)
A good come back with HOURS in 2000 ( great album- good old Bowie is back)
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: August 01 2007 at 12:04 |
Hunky Dory and The Man Who Sold The World are the most progressive.
His Berlin Trilogy comes next in proginess, but not nearly next in quality IMO.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Zargus
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Posted: August 01 2007 at 11:58 |
Low was his most progy album but all his 70 stuff are great! 
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: August 01 2007 at 11:57 |
Any discoveries concerning David Bowie, Carakhallo? Personally I love the Ziggy Stardust era (especially the live video) and Berlin-era songs like Warszawa and Sense Of Doubt (wonderful Chamberlin work)  And I grew up with Rebel Rebel and The Jean Genie, great guitar licks from the late Mick Ronson.
Edited by erik neuteboom - August 01 2007 at 11:58
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ZowieZiggy
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Posted: August 01 2007 at 09:15 |
Well, as I know a bit of Bowie, I would say that it all depends on what you are looking for.
For folk music, I'd suggest "Space Oddity " (although the title track might be considered as prog with the great synth work from Rick Wakeman) and "Hunky Dory"
For hard-rock : "The Man Who Sold The World"
For concept : "Ziggy" and "Diamond Dogs"
Pure rock music : "Aladin Sane" (also known as "a lad insane" FYI), "Station to Station" (although a bit soul as well) and "Scary Monsters" (real great)
For prog related : "Low" and "Heroes"
For commercial (but good) stuff : "Let's Dance" and "Hours"
A good option would be his double live album : "Stage"
I hope to have been helpful.
Cheers.
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salmacis
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:49 |
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Ah right yes- sorry, my bad. It was 'See Emily Play' on 'Pinups'- I think there are versions of Bowie doing 'Arnold Layne' that circulate however.
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Walker
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:27 |
salmacis wrote:
I think the album with the 'Arnold Layne reprise' is 'Pinups' a covers album, which had a cover of 'Arnold Layne'.
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To my knowledge, Bowie never did a version of Arnold Layne. See Emily Play was the PF track he covered on Pinups.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:26 |
salmacis wrote:
I think the album with the 'Arnold Layne reprise' is 'Pinups' a covers album, which had a cover of 'Arnold Layne'.
I'd say this was Bowie's poorest album of the '70s- the only song which improved on the original was 'Sorrow'.
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I thought that the Floyd cover on that album was "See Emily Play"?
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salmacis
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:16 |
I think the album with the 'Arnold Layne reprise' is 'Pinups' a covers album, which had a cover of 'Arnold Layne'.
I'd say this was Bowie's poorest album of the '70s- the only song which improved on the original was 'Sorrow'.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:10 |
oliverstoned wrote:
...Yes, there are a few little prog moments on Diamond dogs, like the half-good Arnold layne reprise, but the overall album is atrocious.
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Which is the Arnold Layne reprise?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:09 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I would stick Diamond Dogs in there too! |
Hope it's a joke! |
Non..its no joke, I like 70's Bowie!
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salmacis
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 16:40 |
I don't really think Bowie is 'progressive rock' as such; he is certainly a progressive musician though, constantly changing his style. Here's his career pinnacles, in my opinion.
1- Man Who Sold The World (Bowie invents pomp rock- tremendous and very heavy)
2- Hunky Dory (a wonderful amalgamation of pop, folk rock, Velvet Underground-esque rock and absurdities- one of his best)
3- The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust...(the best glam rock album ever made; also one of the best rock albums ever made too- every track is great)
4- Diamond Dogs (A transitional album from the heavy rock of previous efforts and the so called 'plastic soul' of his next few albums- it's one of the more progressive albums, and my personal favourite)
5- Station To Station (A wonderful record- features Bowie's greatest vocals and some of his best tunes)
6- Low/Heroes/Lodger (All 3 are superb in my opinion- Bowie pretty much invented post punk after these, not long after fully fledged punk rock had been created too)
7- Scary Monsters (a truly mad, skewed avant pop album- another masterpiece)
8- Heathen (his best late period album; some great tracks here)
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 13:57 |
DavidInsabella wrote:
Carakhallo wrote:
I still haven´t listened to any David Bowie´s record and I heard some of them are quite near to prog rock. Can anyone recommend me some of his releases? I am interested in those more prog-like sounding. |
David Bowie is prog now? Hmm, I don't know, I always thought of David Bowie as a pop singer. But prog or not, his music is good.
Hunky Dory is his best record.
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