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    Posted: August 22 2005 at 13:17

what does everyone think of greg lake's ballads. Songs like lucky man, still... you turn me on, c'est la vie etc.?

Ive heard a lot of people say they're cheesy, but personally i really like them. Also, what is the genral opinion on greg's lead guitar work, again i think he's better than often given credit for.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 13:19
Lucky man is actually the only ELP song I appreciate. You turn me on, C'est la vie, Jersualem and so on, no, thanks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 13:21
I hate the cheesy synth part on Lucky Man, but otherwise it's a decent song
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 13:22
"Jerusalem" a Greg Lake ballad? - somehow I think not.

I'm not a great fan of his stuff on Works Vol 1, but he is a good singer and underrated guitar player.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 13:28
From the Beginning is amazing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 13:30
~The Long Goodbye and the Lie from his first solo lp were tasty, albeit not ballads.

~His duet with Pete Sinfield on Still continues to bring goosebumps after more than 30 years.

~ I always thought his electric work on Karn Evil 9 was more than passable and enjoy the acoustic work on From the Beginning.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 13:43

Yeah, I like 'em.  Quite a bit, now that I think about it.  I really like "From the Beginning" and "C'est la Vie", "Still... You Turn Me On" is kind of lame, "Lucky Man" is pretty good.  But I think my favorite is "The Sage".  I particularly like the guitar solos in that song. 

Agreed, he really is a great guitarist, esp. the solos in "Karn Evil 9".  Great tone in those, I always thought...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 13:44

Sometimes when I pull out the six-string, I'll play 'Still....you turn me on'.  It's an enjoyable tune to play and sing.  But...I always skip singing the "Someone get me a ladder" line since it is so undeniably horrible.  I can't bring myself to do it

Otherwise, I like the song

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 13:58

I have to admit I love those ballads, although I'm not usually a fan of slow, romantic songs. Greg's voice makes them really special, and his acoustic playing is very good. As to his electric playing, I think he's rather underrated, but I think his real strong point is the singing.

"Someone get me a ladder" is quite an awful line, but I don't find Lake so bad a lyricist as many others claim. Other songs' lyrics are not bad at all, although of course he's no Roger Waters or Neil Peart.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:00

Originally posted by floydaholic floydaholic wrote:

From the Beginning is amazing.

I agree.Great song and production.I like Greg Lake's ballads as they provide a good contrast to the frenetic and technical peices.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:02
The ballads are nice,but not spectacular...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:03
Great voice, and a pretty good guitar player (obviously a great, great bass player, but that should go without saying).  Lake should have left the writing to someone else, though.  "Someone get me a ladder" is a classic, but my favorite is the line that literally made me choke on my soda when I first heard it -- "Do you believe God makes you breathe/why did he lose six million Jews?"  Awesomely bad.   Oh, yeah, almost forgot this gem from Trilogy -- "We tried to lie/but you and I/know better than to let each other lie/the thought of lying to you makes me cry."  Worst. Poetry. Ever.  Every time I listen to ELP (which is quite often), I try very hard to pretend I don't speak English.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:11
I'm not sure,but I think the 'someone get me a ladder' line was actually an ''injoke''.(well I hope so anyway)  Linda(3 Fates) or someone else please clarify?..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:23

Hes not that bad as a lyricist, admittedly the 'someone get a ladder' is particular poor (maybe it was an injoke). But generally overall hes pretty good.

And someone mentioned earlier 'the sage' from pictures at an exhibition, its a good one isn't it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:44
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by floydaholic floydaholic wrote:

From the Beginning is amazing.

I agree.Great song and production.I like Greg Lake's ballads as they provide a good contrast to the frenetic and technical peices.

10/10

The same goes for The sherrif, but that isn't a ballad. God, do I love both songs!!!! And what about The endless enigma part 1, it's true perfection.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:56

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

I hate the cheesy synth part on Lucky Man, but otherwise it's a decent song

 

Call it cheese if you want but that means you didn't understand a couple of things.  First it was one of the earliest recording with a moog synth recorded on it and second he did it in one take.  Greg lake said that is exactly what I want.  Keith never rehearsed or pre wrote the solo for it.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 15:21
My favorite ELP songs actually. Especially "From The Beginning"; that song is utterly beautiful, with a very very nice guitar solo to boot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 15:34

I always find it fascinating how different views on music are even when we share a love a for prog. I find the synthesizer part on Lucky Man the best part of the song.

As I type this, I'm listening once more to From the beginning, but it still does not do much to me - and again, I prefer instrumental parts over the vocals although I'm normally much more drawn to vocals.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 15:57

 I must admit I like these ballads. Please remember that it was hit single Lucky Man that brought ELP to the top of the charts, so it played vital role in popularization of whole genre (I'm quoting Rockin' The Classics by Edward Macan). It was written by 14 - year old Greg Lake though, and so it sounds infantile (that's why it annoys some ELP fans).

Nevertheless, it would be nice to catch "Still You Turn Me On" or "From The Beginning" on radio on Valentine's Day instead of Britney or Robbie Williams (excuse me for rude language, pardon my Klatchian)

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