Peter Rideout

I've PM'ed him too. I understand and respect Peter's perspective. I have been cutting back myself. I did not see the entire thread which precluded his departure, however, I'm glad it was removed. The last thing we need is to leave a steaming turd lying in the front yard for all to see.

So, what do we do about it? Peter's not coming back anytime soon. He sounds committed to his decision to leave. How do we keep others from leaving too? Where's Tauhd? She seems to have lost interest, no?

 

i have had many pms with Peter, he will come back when he is ready(IF INDEED HE DECIDES TO!!!)

personnally i understand his reasons

lets get away from politics(who cares who likes George Bush or not etc) and religion(lets just stay away from any religios references eg muhommad, jesus (even as a profanity...PLEASE !!!)

for the most part this is a fun forum with a unique sense of humour that ,not only have i not encounted elsewhere but has apparently been noted elsewhere on the net!!

if Peter comes back..all well and good!!

but let his departure be a reminder as to our obligations ,not only to our countries  but also to ourselves as representatives of a wider world, this is a forum devoted to prog and our perceptions of it!! lets focus on thaT But for goodness sake lets have a little fun on the way

THERE ARE THREADS WHICH ARE FRIVOLOUS AND HAVE LITTLE OR NOTHING TO DO WITH PROG...OKAY, LETS LET OF A LITTLE STEAM(AND UNEARTH SOME GOOD COMEDIC TALENT!!)

I LOVE MY MUSIC BUT I DO NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY

I KNOW ENOUGH TO POKE GOOD NATURED FUN

LETS ALL RELAX AND REMEMBER

 

NOT LIKING SOMEONE ELSES BAND IS NOT A PERSONNAL AFFRONT TO THAT PERSONS CHARACTER

SOMEONES RELIGIOUS BELEIFS ARE IRRELEVENT  LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE!!

JIM GARTEN LIKES BADGERS...(OOPS)

DUDE IS A sh*t STIRRER!!

I missed whatever it was that caused you to leave Peter, but I gather it had to do with politics and or religion. Whatever it was it's not worth getting upset about mate. I just got political myself, on another thread, but it was relevent to the thread. I would like you to return for the following reasons:

1. Posts are always articulate and eloquent.

2. Posts are interesting and informative.

3. If you quit now, your a QUITTER. (meant in a friendly pep-talk way.)

Edited by raggy

I also PM'd Peter - and he told me he has several reasons for wishing to take a back seat ATM - the same as he has posted here - which I respect.

I think we're all capable of breaking up a fight - and of following Peter's example of doing that in a light-hearted but pointed manner.

Even if he wants to take a break, I'm sure his spirit will remain.

"...you can check out any time you like..."

Edited by diddy

dude wrote: personnally i understand his reasons lets get away from politics(who cares who likes George Bush or not etc) and religion(lets just stay away from any religios references eg muhommad, jesus (even as a profanity...PLEASE !!!)

I agree that we should stay away from politics and religion. However, not everyone is going to comply. In  forums there are always those that enjoy offending everyone in the name of free speech. If someone crosses the line then they should be banned just like in other forums that I belong to. Hate mongers that go out of their way to continually harass others or express their hatred toward certain members because of race or religion should be banned.

Something definitely needs to be done.....

Peter has chosen not to frequent this Forum, as too has Stormcrow; these two were original members of the site, and their absence will be felt, maybe not by the occasional troll who chooses to grace us with their presence, but certainly by those of us who appreciate reasoned debate, exchange of ideas, and a bloody good sense of humour when we see it.

Peter & Stormcrow have both formally announced their intentions, and given their reasons (which I fully understand, respect and support 100%), but what of the others from the first days of the site, who appear to be posting less & less (if at all)? I'm thinking of Tauhd, Phillippe, Alexander...... all sterling fans of 'prog' with ideas & perspectives on the genre, which are now being sadly lost to the group.

If we are to keep members who joined due to the lack of a website in which to exchange views on prog rock, we need to get back to what this site was all about originally....... 1960/70's progressive rock, and the bands influenced by that (this is my opinion only, I would hasten to add). Yes, there is a part of the site devoted to subjects not related to music (including some very entertaining humour....), but this should not be used to post potentially inflamatory subjects, such as religion or politics (again, there are plenty of sites out there.....); OK, this may seem to many to be advocating an overly 'safe' path for the Forum, but isn't this better than the alternative, i.e. losing valuable members?

OK, little English rant over......

I for one, intend to remain on the site (for the time being, in any rate), hoping that conditions/postings change for the better, and that Peter & Stormcrow return to the fold, along with the other members, who have been drifting away.

Edited by Jim Garten

I've been away from the PC most of the Bank Holiday weekend and missed this. However, picking up on other's comments, I must say I thought I had found a safe haven for prog rock discussion and description here - I've been on others and left because of  tirades propelled by inflexible people.

A couple of points that should be remembered:

a) we should concentrate on the breadth and depth of progressive rock here - although there must be room for humour but not anger or aggression. However, I am not proposing that e.mails should be moderated, but contributors should have a "sense of proportion".

b) everybody is entitled to their own opinions, that should be respected - but it would be a very dull world if other folks always agreed. If a counter-arguement is offered it must be made in the spirit of friendly debate, and perhaps some reasoning offered. (I'll listen and I might even change my mind). Perhaps 'IMHO' should be used more often! And of course wrt to reviews we are all trying  to communicate quite abstract ideas why we like (or less commonly) why not like an album.

As a fellow academic I can understand Peter's ideas expressed here, being based on sound knowledge and sensible interpretation.

This is an international discussion group on music and therefore one country's politics has little relevance in another. And religions arguments will risk falling foul of  various nations' Race and  Equality Laws.

YOU ARE TOTALLY RIGHT DICK !

AND THAT,AS THEY SAY,IS THAT!!

ITS TIME TO MOVE ON

THANKS JIM!!