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    Posted: May 29 2004 at 09:14

 Ermm  Fellow prog fans: After careful reflection, I have decided to quit the Forums, at least for the forseeable future. A public forum that discusses/argues about religion, jihad and politics is not what I signed on for, and I fear that it would only be a matter of time before my sense of humour accidentally offends some political or religious fanatic -- I don't want any psychopaths coming after me, or to end up with a fatwa hanging over my head.

I am a family man, and in the name of integrity, I have used my real name here, but I don't feel I should be an active presence here any longer. I don't like where this new "wide open" forum is heading, and I no longer want to be a part of it. I must consider my family, and my own peace of mind.

This forum eats up too much of my time in any case -- time better spent with my family, or reading a good book, or listening to music! (I have also said perhaps all I really want to regarding "what is prog?" forum civility, and even Mariah Carey!)  I will continue, however, to write reviews for the archives. (My output should increase in that regard.)Smile

I'll check/respond to Private Messages for a few days, to tie up any "loose ends," but from then on, see you on the reviews page.

Dude, Danbo, Jim, Joren, Storm, Velvet, Vibe, Cert, Dick, Diddy, Ivan, Cesar, etc. etc, I have enjoyed exchanging musical views and humour with you, and I wish you all the best. (I have exchanged emails with some of you, & I plan to continue with that form of communication.)Smile

Keep proggin,' and one last piece of advice -- stick to the music (and politically correct humour) for your discussions! Who needs to be angry at strangers, or to have them angry at you?Stern Smile

Somewhat regretfully, but also with relief,

I remain, sincerely yours,

Peter Rideout Ying Yang



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2004 at 09:36
...why have these things come to such a pretty pass?
 
It's not easy to see a kind of figurehead of this forum leaving...
I always appreciated his comments and I really liked his sense of humor...
this decision made me kind of dumbfound, all I have to say is:
 
See you Peter...we will miss you, at least I for one will do...
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2004 at 12:58
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

 Ermm  Fellow prog fans: After careful reflection, I have decided to quit the Forums, at least for the forseeable future. A public forum that discusses/argues about religion, jihad and politics is not what I signed on for, and I fear that it would only be a matter of time before my sense of humour accidentally offends some political or religious fanatic -- I don't want any psychopaths coming after me, or to end up with a fatwa hanging over my head.

I am a family man, and in the name of integrity, I have used my real name here, but I don't feel I should be an active presence here any longer. I don't like where this new "wide open" forum is heading, and I no longer want to be a part of it. I must consider my family, and my own peace of mind.

This forum eats up too much of my time in any case -- time better spent with my family, or reading a good book, or listening to music! (I have also said perhaps all I really want to regarding "what is prog?" forum civility, and even Mariah Carey!)  I will continue, however, to write reviews for the archives. (My output should increase in that regard.)Smile

I'll check/respond to Private Messages for a few days, to tie up any "loose ends," but from then on, see you on the reviews page.

Dude, Danbo, Jim, Joren, Storm, Velvet, Vibe, Cert, Dick, Diddy, Ivan, Cesar, etc. etc, I have enjoyed exchanging musical views and humour with you, and I wish you all the best. (I have exchanged emails with some of you, & I plan to continue with that form of communication.)Smile

Keep proggin,' and one last piece of advice -- stick to the music (and politically correct humour) for your discussions! Who needs to be angry at strangers, or to have them angry at you?Stern Smile

Somewhat regretfully, but also with relief,

I remain, sincerely yours,

Peter Rideout Ying Yang

I agree with you that we shouldn't discuss politics here. But as you mentioned some other reasons for your departure, I guess I can't do anything to stop you from leaving...

If I can, PLEASE tell me what it is!

I HATE to see you go!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2004 at 13:21
Thire is wisedom in avoiding 2 topics Religion and
politics whis is the case in aney Forum However in
international forum like this it is rather pointless.
As we are all from Diffrent points on the globe wich
indacates diffrent cultures and world viues as such it
meanswer are not going to have the same viues on Scocio
Religus maters and as far as politics goes rather silly
to decouse that becuse were not all inder the same
government. (And we can all be thankfull for that)

and yes i so use a Screename but my real is in my
profile

it is badd to see you leave but i look forward to
reading your Reveiwes.

Yamamoto Yosho   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2004 at 14:43

I'm glad you put a question mark after the title, as it gives me hope that you will not do this dastardly deed. Think not of yourself but the impact you are having on others - who will Danbo taunt now? Who will reign in the wild and dangerous VelvetClown? Who else could stand up intellectually to Dick Heath?

I ask you to think twice before you unleash the Gartens, the Jorens and the Vibes on the rest of us...

(partly) in fun

Cert

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2004 at 16:43

Peter, I respect and fully condone your reasons. Hopefully, you will continue to make occasional posts to the forum when time and inclination permit.

I too am troubled by the non music related postings, but shall simply choose to ignore them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2004 at 02:28

I have enjoyed our private chats and understand your reasons!

i made an idiotic contribution to the recently deleted "READ THIS" THREAD for which i apologise most sincerely to everyone!!......and as a man with religious beleifs it my seem odd to say but i would prefer there be no talk of religion at all.

its just to messy.

whether we like it or not there are "taboo" subjects such as religion and politics that are really not appropriate(or relevent!) to this site and we do have to be careful of what we say, and be aware of the diverse cultural beleifs and perceptions represented here(in that regard i have made some "ripper blunders"(as we say in my country) that have got me the ocassional cyber slap on the hand)

personally i beleive there should be a code of conduct or set of guidelines that should be read by anyone wishing to join the forums, as a condition to joining.

 

Peter and i have had many verbal jousts(he was always a  gracious  loser) and now who will i tell my balzac jokes to??

 JIM???....to busy dancing(GO TWINKLE TOES!!)

 DANBO???......nah! he is still on that lake in the Sierras i think

VELVE???.........nope,..to fixated with Mariah

 

Peter:let that question mark be more than just a mark on a page.

 









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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2004 at 12:15

Wow, take a few days off from the forum and all hell breaks loose, the sh*t hits the fan and Peter Rides out.... Meagor, totally meagor.

Ooopss, bacon needs attention.

I'll be back, just like Peter.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2004 at 00:39

Peter, I just want to say that in the short time that I've been here that I've found you to be a true gentleman and someone that we need more of around here. Try to ignore the offensive trolls that surface now and then. They will become bored after a while and hopefully leave.

Please reconsider.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2004 at 06:28
The forum will lose one of his most clever member...
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2004 at 21:46

Dude:

You said: "personally i beleive there should be a code of conduct or set of guidelines that should be read by anyone wishing to join the forums, as a condition to joining.

I agree with you, but, as the saying goes, "be careful what you wish for."  If you read the recent "civility" thread (which appears at the top of all categories), you will see that my implementation of two reasonable guidelines met with some fairly stiff backlash.  For the most part, everyone has observed the two new guidelines.  However, I hesitate to think what might happen if I were to add further guidelines.

Still, if Peter's "bowing out" from the forums helps to get more people to follow the two basic guidelines - and, as Peter magnificently puts it, to "stick to the music" (and avoid ultimately irrelevant (and almost always inflammatory) topics like politics and religion) - then this can only be a good thing.  And Peter knows this.

Peace.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2004 at 22:51

Hope that Peter evaluates his options and decides to come back, I would surely miss him.

Iván



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2004 at 02:57
That it should come to this.......

I too, can fully respect Peter's reasons for departure from the forum, and have to say the forum will be a poorer place without him - he has always been the voice of reason when threads have descended into abuse, and his contributions have always been a highlight of many threads, whether they be about the more arcane aspects of this thing we call 'prog', posing brain teasers, or just letting his sense of humour run riot.

Peter, I can only echo Dude:

"let that question mark be more than just a mark on a page"

You will be sorely missed




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2004 at 10:26

Smile I want to thank all who have offered me support and/or expressed regret at my departure from the Forum, both here and in Private Messages.

I remain firm in my resolve to exit the Forums -- this should indeed be the last post you read from me here, at least for the foreseeable future.

 Ermm I leave with no ill will -- the recent religious/political/personal acrimony on this Forum gave me the final push I needed to re-evaluate my computer use, and to get control of a habit that had basically become an addiction (878 posts, many of them lengthy, represents a lot of time here!), and an overall source of more pain than pleasure. This move had been contemplated for some time. My time is simply better spent with my family, work, books, music and reviews. It was great fun while it lasted, and I made some friendships here that I think will last. I will continue to check my Private Messages every couple of days, so no one need think that I will be forever unreachable.

I know myself too well to think that I could simply reduce my Forum time, or avoid all political/religious arguments. My departure has to be all or nothing.

Stern Smile In closing, I urge all to remember that what you write here goes out to the world, and the world is a big place of widely divergent views. Concentrate not on those things that divide us, but upon that which we have in common: a love of music, and a desire to be treated with respect and dignity. Remember that there is a human being behind each post and nickname. If you wouldn't say it to someone's face in public, don't say it here. Ying Yang

All the best to all (and the Forums),

and again, thanks for the support and good times!Hug

Change is good! Thumbs Up

Sincerely,

Peter Rideout

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Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2004 at 10:49

GOODBYE FOR NOW NET FREIND

LET ME KNOW HOW THINGS ARE IN YOUR PART OF THE WORLD, AT SOME STAGE(AH SUNNY ONTARIO!!!...CAMELS TREKKING ACROSS SANDY DESERTS, MILES OF DESERTED SUN DRENCHED BEACHES....TRULY AN ENCHANTED LAND!!!)

 

AND DONT WORRY, I WILL TAKE CARE OF GARTEN

HERE JIM .....DIN DINS!!!(WHERE IS THAT BIB?)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2004 at 11:04
TOODLE-OO & PIP PIP, OH WEB-PROFESSOR

NOW, DUDE - YOU KNOW I LIKE MY BELUGA CAVIAR WELL DONE IN SANDWICHES; AND WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT DOM PERIGNON 1924 CHAMPAGNE IS DRUNK FROM PINT GLASSES....

"DOWN IN ONE, DOWN IN ONE, DOWN IN ONE"

*BURP*

PETER UNDERSTOOD ME........

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2004 at 11:11

AMEN JIM

YOU PETER AND I, WERNT WE THE "FIRST THREE""?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2004 at 11:12
You, me, Peter R & Danbo - We all became members within 3 days of each other (& young Joren was only a couple of days behind us) *sigh*

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2004 at 11:19

HOW CAN WE FORGET DANBO AND JOREN!!!......ER, WHO IS DANBO???

 

IS THAT THE BLOKE IN THE BOAT??

HE SHOULD LAY OFF THE POTATO CHIPS!!!

OH DEAR i AM IN FOR IT NOW

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2004 at 11:43
Originally posted by dude dude wrote:

WHO IS DANBO???

IS THAT THE BLOKE IN THE BOAT??

HE SHOULD LAY OFF THE POTATO CHIPS!!!

  OH DEAR i AM IN FOR IT NOW

I should say so. Ye who have yet to post your Aussie countenance in the Gallery for all to see and make fun of repeatedly.  Bugger

It's not the chips, American of English, don't care for them, mate. It's the beer and lack of pounding the pavement. At least my chilly willy doesn't shrink in the cold breeze of the night air.





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