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Topic: Philip Glass Posted: May 12 2005 at 04:30 |
Can anyone tell me if he is progressive, or where I can compare him with? I saw a movie he made the music for, and it's very beautifull, but what are his key albums?
Thanks inadvance
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 04:53 |
I would describe him as Prog(ish).
His genre of music is usually described as 'Systems Music.' This consists of a set rhythm that constantly evolves and weaves around newly incorporateed rhythms.All very hypnotic. Other exponents of the genre include John Adams,Terry Riley and Steve Reich to name but a few.
The albums that I would recommend are:-
Glassworks
Music in 12 Parts
Koyaanisquatsi
The Photographer
Low Symphony ( His re-working of tracks from Bowie's Low album)
Heroe's Symphony - See previous recommendation
Kundrun
Einstein on the Beach.
Happy (but can be expensive) Listening
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 05:02 |
edit: darn server deleted my post- lucky I've become used to copy-and-paste posting here the last few days. Still, Man-Erg said pretty much the same thing, so kinda pointless now, but...
"Einstein on the Beach" is a classic..."Glassworks" or "Song of Liquid Days" are both good starting points...I liked "Koyaanisqatsi", but you may need the visuals to get the full effect. If you're a fan of Bowie you may find the "Low" and "Heroes" symphonies well worth checking out.
Enjoy! Glass is a bit of an acquired taste, repetitive and minimalist but very powerful. In that way he could be compared to Eno, but with less ambient textures and a more intense weight to the music- seems like there might be a classical Germanic influence, though through a completely modern filter. On the other hand, he definitely resembles his contemporary Steve Reich (whom I prefer) but with a relatively more accesible style.
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 05:05 |
Can he be campared to the soundscapes of Robert Fripp, or Mike Oldfield, or something like that? And what is his Key album? (like close to the edge is for Yes, or something like that?)
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 05:18 |
haas wrote:
Can he be campared to the soundscapes of Robert Fripp, or Mike Oldfield, or something like that? And what is his Key album? (like close to the edge is for Yes, or something like that?) |
What I've heard of Phillip Glass is considerably more musically complex than anything I've ever heard by Fripp pr Oldfield. Although I've not heard that much PG, what I have heard is more akin to minimilist music and in some shops in the UK was filed under classical, alongside the likes of Michael Nyman and Steve Reich. Its not really anything to do with pop, rock or prog in any way.
That was my impression, but I may be wrong.
Incidentally if you like cleever minimilist stuff then I can reccomend 'Different Trains' by Steve Reich. Its quite exhilierating
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 05:35 |
Philip Glass and Ravi Shankar collaboration, forget the name(Passages?) is an interesting piece of work that should be heard by music students.
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 05:53 |
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 09:49 |
Big Fan of Phillip Glass
as well as the ones mentioned above perhaps you should check out
Powaqaatsi
Solo Piano
and possible the most accesible of his recent works
the soundtrack to the movie 'The Hours', which is really lovely
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 12:59 |
PG's music is very rhythmic, sequenced and repetitive. there are repetitive female vocals through sequenced orchestral arrangements; that's why he is a minimalist; he is not really prog.
try photographer and north star.
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 13:05 |
Simply the most overrated and most popular artist from the minimalist musical scene...all his albums are the same...forbid names as Philip Glass, Steve Reich and John Adams and go back to the extreme, radical repetitive drone music made by the initiators of the genre (La monte Young and others), by fare better, more physical and more visceral!!!
Glass' best album is the one he made at the beginning of the 70s with Reich, Gibson and others from the east coast minimalist scene: Four organs
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 13:25 |
^ It's always strange to me to hear artists like Philip Glass and John Cage (or even Pink Floyd or ELP) referred to as 'overrated'. I suppose I'd be more likely to agree if I thought that more than 0.01% of music fans had any actual exposure to their music.
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 13:58 |
Maybe they are overated inside the genre.
i think that what Philippe means
Philipp Glass is quite famous.
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Posted: May 13 2005 at 06:01 |
Philip Glass did have a brief brush with rock/prog when Virgin released his North Star album back in the 70s on the back of recommendations by the likes of Bowie and Eno. It was heavily advertised in the UK music press, but didn't sell that well.
As other posters have mentioned, Steve Reich works in a similar vein - Music for 18 Musicians is a great introduction to his work.
Terry Riley is another minimalist of about the same vintage - A Rainbow in Curved Air was hugely influential on 70s prog, including giving Curved Air their name. In C is another great Riley piece, see if you can find the version by NY percussion ensemble Bang on a Can.
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Posted: May 13 2005 at 08:50 |
Syzygy wrote:
Terry Riley is another minimalist of about the same vintage - A Rainbow in Curved Air was hugely influential on 70s prog, including giving Curved Air their name. In C is another great Riley piece, see if you can find the version by NY percussion ensemble Bang on a Can.
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And of course Townshend and Ratledge also were heavily influenced and using derived minimalism in their recorded music - e.g. the Who's Baba O'Riley
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 05:57 |
THanks for all the advice, i'm broke now because i bought a lot of his albums :).
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 06:23 |
Philips Glass: a lot of his music is incredibly beautiful, a lot of it I find
dull. Glass fans, check out Belgian minimal composer Wim Mertens.
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 10:18 |
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:29 |
DallasBryan wrote:
Philip Glass and Ravi Shankar collaboration, forget the name(Passages?) is an interesting piece of work that should be heard by music students. |
Yes, it was Passages. There is a great track on it, and now I don't know the name !
I once heard Philip do a solo piano version of some of the Einstein On The Beach stuff, and it was fantastic!
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