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    Posted: August 15 2005 at 16:50
Have you noticed that "Even Less" lyrics are quite different in Warzsawa compared to Stupid Dream? Why is that? Is this in any FAQ?

Did you know that the guy talking at the end of "Last Time to Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled" is the leader from that religious group that commited suicide when that comet was near Earth?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 16:54
There is a longer version of Even Less ... on the album Recordings, I think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 16:56

Originally posted by fractal fractal wrote:

Have you noticed that "Even Less" lyrics are quite different in Warzsawa compared to Stupid Dream? Why is that? Is this in any FAQ?

Did you know that the guy talking at the end of "Last Time to Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled" is the leader from that religious group that commited suicide when that comet was near Earth?

 

First, I don't bring you a answer but a question, I know well Stupid Dream but what is Warzsawa (I know that's a city in Poland), a live album? And if is it, is it good?

Second, the religious group you're talking about is it "Le temple solaire" or in english "The solar temple"? 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:00
Originally posted by fractal fractal wrote:

Have you noticed that "Even Less" lyrics are quite different in Warzsawa compared to Stupid Dream? Why is that? Is this in any FAQ?

Did you know that the guy talking at the end of "Last Time to Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled" is the leader from that religious group that commited suicide when that comet was near Earth?


Yep, great sample, eh?

I don't have Stupid Dream or Warsawa yet, but they're on the list. Intriguing that the lyrics are different.

Have you ever wondered what those numbers were at the end of Even Less?

Do a google search for "number stations"


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:03
Originally posted by TURK182! TURK182! wrote:

Second, the religious group you're talking about is it "Le temple solaire" or in english "The solar temple"? 



Nope, he's talking about the "Heaven's Gate" Cult.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:09
Originally posted by TURK182! TURK182! wrote:

Originally posted by fractal fractal wrote:

Have you noticed that "Even Less" lyrics are quite different in Warzsawa compared to Stupid Dream? Why is that? Is this in any FAQ?

Did you know that the guy talking at the end of "Last Time to Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled" is the leader from that religious group that commited suicide when that comet was near Earth?

 

First, I don't bring you a answer but a question, I know well Stupid Dream but what is Warzsawa (I know that's a city in Poland), a live album? And if is it, is it good?

Second, the religious group you're talking about is it "Le temple solaire" or in english "The solar temple"? 



Yes, Warzsawa is also the name of a live CD recorded in Warzsawa, Poland.

Here it is.

I like PT live albums and I find this to be the best (biased opinion, I have only heard two live albums from them, Warzsawa and Coma Divine).

I don't know the name of the group, but I found a page where it is said that they called themselves "Heaven's Gate" and that the mass suicide was in 1997.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:12
Thanks a lot FRACTAL for the answers!!!!!!!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:12

Its WARSZAWA, NOt WARZAWA!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:25
Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Its WARSZAWA, NOt WARZAWA!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 



I didn't say "Warzawa", I said "Warzsawa".

I blame Arnold Schwarzenegger. He confused me.

(Yes, I know he is from Austria, not Poland, but the spelling of "warz" comes naturally.)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:28
I was in the Heaven's Gate cult and I was the only one to survive the suicide attempt. Shot myself 3 times before I noticed this was stupid, and it hurt alot too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:30
Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:

Yep, great sample, eh?

I don't have Stupid Dream or Warsawa yet, but they're on the list. Intriguing that the lyrics are different.

Have you ever wondered what those numbers were at the end of Even Less?

Do a google search for "number stations"




Something to do with espionage? I've heard about that don't know where. Urban legend probably?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:33
Originally posted by fractal fractal wrote:

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Its WARSZAWA, NOt WARZAWA!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 



I didn't say "Warzawa", I said "Warzsawa".

I blame Arnold Schwarzenegger. He confused me.

(Yes, I know he is from Austria, not Poland, but the spelling of "warz" comes naturally.)

IITS MR GOVERNER, NOT ARNOLD!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:35
Then there is Voyage 34, which I think has something to do with the time duration in minutes of someone's bad trip. But why if it is not a 34 minute album?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:38
Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

IITS MR GOVERNER, NOT ARNOLD!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 




You mean Mr. GOVERNATOR?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:46
Originally posted by fractal fractal wrote:

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

IITS MR GOVERNER, NOT ARNOLD!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 




You mean Mr. GOVERNATOR?

I thought Governor was also correct...

And I still think it is!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 17:54
Originally posted by fractal fractal wrote:

Have you noticed that "Even Less" lyrics are quite different in Warzsawa compared to Stupid Dream? Why is that?


I've never listened to that live version but I know that "Even Less" was originally intended to be a(n) (anti-)religious song and had different lyrics with obvious allusions to Mr. Christ. Finally, Wilson took the edge off it by changing the lyrics for the release of "Stupid Dream". Maybe the version on "Warszawa" is the revived original version?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 18:03
Originally posted by Miaugion Miaugion wrote:

Originally posted by fractal fractal wrote:

Have you noticed that "Even Less" lyrics are quite different in Warzsawa compared to Stupid Dream? Why is that?


I've never listend to that live version but I know that "Even Less" was originally intended to be a(n) (anti-)religious song and had different lyrics with obvious allusions to Mr. Christ. Finally, Wilson took the edge off it by changing the lyrics for the relase of "Stupid Dream".



Is Mr. Wilson atheist? It doesn't surprise me at all, specially after reading some of his lyrics.

I am kinda an agnostic pantheist myself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 18:12
Originally posted by fractal fractal wrote:

Then there is Voyage 34, which I think has something to do with the time duration in minutes of someone's bad trip. But why if it is not a 34 minute album?


Nope - it was the 34th trip that was the "bad one", not 34 minutes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 18:18
Originally posted by fractal fractal wrote:

Originally posted by Miaugion Miaugion wrote:

Originally posted by fractal fractal wrote:

Have you noticed that "Even Less"
lyrics are quite different in Warzsawa compared to Stupid Dream? Why is
that?

I've never listend to that live version but I know that "Even Less"
was originally intended to be a(n) (anti-)religious song and had
different lyrics with obvious allusions to Mr. Christ. Finally, Wilson
took the edge off it by changing the lyrics for the relase of "Stupid
Dream".

Is Mr. Wilson atheist?


Sorry, I don't know about his outlook on everything. And I can't find the original lyrics at the moment. Thought you could get them on the PT website but ... nothing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 18:39

Originally posted by fractal fractal wrote:

Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:

Yep, great sample, eh?

I don't have Stupid Dream or Warsawa yet, but they're on the list. Intriguing that the lyrics are different.

Have you ever wondered what those numbers were at the end of Even Less?

Do a google search for "number stations"




Something to do with espionage? I've heard about that don't know where. Urban legend probably?

Not Urban Legend at all. The end of Even Less sounds like a CIA short-wave radio "number post" from around 1990. CIA "Cynthia" perchance???

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